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Rolling out the vaccine.

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  • RainmanR Offline
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    Rainman
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    Open the borders, let the black market handle it.

    Most people will be getting a saline solution anyway, we're all just research rats for the WHO.

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    • MikM Offline
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      The Walgreens we got tested at this morning was not at an active Walgreens. We could see the pharmacy section and everything in the store had been taken out and was under construction. My guess is they are setting it up as a vaccine center of some sort.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        #10

        Interesting.

        You were warned.

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          #11

          Probably some more of Trump's screw-ups...

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • jon-nycJ Online
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            jon-nyc
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            #12

            I’ve seen worse proposals....

            You were warned.

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            • CopperC Offline
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              https://babylonbee.com/news/bernie-sanders-shocked-after-us-beats-venezuela-to-producing-covid-vaccine?fbclid=IwAR0T2yyrK1EWksOpPRtEgnnL3bXMctrw63How-gQ1HVwCyno6MUwS9PYqhs

              Bernie Sanders Confused After U.S. Beats Cuba To Producing COVID Vaccine

              BURLINGTON, VT—Bernie Sanders expressed bewilderment this week after the announcement that two separate U.S. drug companies have successfully produced a vaccine for COVID while socialist countries like Cuba and Venezuela have not yet announced such a breakthrough.

              "I happen to believe," said Bernie to supporters. "That Cuba and Venezuela invest more in their healthcare than we do. They are more compassionate. They are more advanced. There's no way they haven't produced a vaccine already. They are probably just keeping it secret so American capitalist billionaires don't steal it!"

              Cuba has assured the world that they produced a "better, cheaper" vaccine than the American drug companies but they misplaced it and they're sure it will turn up soon.

              Venezuela also claims to have a 100% effective treatment for COVID but that it was stolen by a pack of feral cats. They have assured the world they will find it shortly.

              North Korea claims they have had a vaccine for years but they don't even need it because people never get sick there.

              Sanders is calling for complete government control of healthcare in hopes that America will catch up to these other, more developed countries.

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              • KincaidK Offline
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                Why are kids being vaccinated before older adults (not over 65)? The stats seem to say that kids are at very low risk and may not even spread the virus as much as adults. My best friend, 57, as COVID and barely escaped being put on a ventilator. He is having a difficult struggle and will be in the hospital for 2-4 weeks.

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                  Sorry to hear that @Kincaid. We will keep him in our thoughts.

                  I’m not saying I agree with it, but the medical reasoning would be to slow spread. The fear is that a lot of the spread in adults comes from children at school. The more factual reason would be because parents need kids back in school.

                  The Brad

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                  • KincaidK Kincaid

                    Why are kids being vaccinated before older adults (not over 65)? The stats seem to say that kids are at very low risk and may not even spread the virus as much as adults. My best friend, 57, as COVID and barely escaped being put on a ventilator. He is having a difficult struggle and will be in the hospital for 2-4 weeks.

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                    @Kincaid said in Rolling out the vaccine.:

                    Why are kids being vaccinated before older adults (not over 65)? The stats seem to say that kids are at very low risk and may not even spread the virus as much as adults. My best friend, 57, as COVID and barely escaped being put on a ventilator. He is having a difficult struggle and will be in the hospital for 2-4 weeks.

                    It's a very nasty disease. It is not the flu.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      Sorry to hear that @Kincaid. We will keep him in our thoughts.

                      I’m not saying I agree with it, but the medical reasoning would be to slow spread. The fear is that a lot of the spread in adults comes from children at school. The more factual reason would be because parents need kids back in school.

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Rolling out the vaccine.:

                      Sorry to hear that @Kincaid. We will keep him in our thoughts.

                      I’m not saying I agree with it, but the medical reasoning would be to slow spread. The fear is that a lot of the spread in adults comes from children at school. The more factual reason would be because parents need kids back in school.

                      And teachers, being selfish, want to maintain their health.

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                      • KincaidK Offline
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                        Was reading about George's daughter's struggle - sounds a lot like my friend. He is several days away from Day 20 but was released to go home. His sense of taste has come back but he is still very tired with just a little activity. He did lose over 30 pounds.

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                          Took my SIL months to recover.

                          And she retains some permanent lung problems. She and her husband spent a long weekend in the Smokies back in October. Even that change in altitude cut her stamina way back.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            I'm thinking the information on side effects of the vaccines will lead many to delay or not take the vaccine. The anti-vax folks will do their bit. From all appearances, this is an area where the administration has done an exemplary job of coordinating a ramp up and distribution system - but I wonder if more than 30% of the population gets vaccinated - not because of logistical issues - but rather the predilections of the US population.

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                              I'm thinking the information on side effects of the vaccines will lead many to delay or not take the vaccine. The anti-vax folks will do their bit. From all appearances, this is an area where the administration has done an exemplary job of coordinating a ramp up and distribution system - but I wonder if more than 30% of the population gets vaccinated - not because of logistical issues - but rather the predilections of the US population.

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                              @kluurs said in Rolling out the vaccine.:

                              I'm thinking the information on side effects of the vaccines will lead many to delay or not take the vaccine. The anti-vax folks will do their bit. From all appearances, this is an area where the administration has done an exemplary job of coordinating a ramp up and distribution system - but I wonder if more than 30% of the population gets vaccinated - not because of logistical issues - but rather the predilections of the US population.

                              That’s fine. I think you get a vaccine card and that lets your kids go to school, you go to malls, restaurants, places of worship, work, retail, airplanes and hotels. The anti-vaxxers can stay home and that is fine with me.

                              I will object loudly to anti Vaxxer being anywhere near my presence an app on a phone would be great.

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                              • MikM Offline
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                                As long as me and mine are protected and can go back to normal life, fuck 'em.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  OTOH...Who knows what normal will be? Viruses mutate and viruses gotta virus...

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    And then the vaccine-making business will mutate.

                                    New ones will be developed daily.

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                                    • JollyJ Jolly

                                      OTOH...Who knows what normal will be? Viruses mutate and viruses gotta virus...

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                                      @Jolly said in Rolling out the vaccine.:

                                      OTOH...Who knows what normal will be? Viruses mutate and viruses gotta virus...

                                      On the other hand it might attenuate.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                        Frankly, I’m not all that amped to take a vaccine that has been fast-tracked through approval processes that exist for a reason, and I’m definitely not amped up to get my kids a fast tracked vaccine for a sickness that likely won’t affect them seriously. Yes, there are cases like George’s daughter, but those are the exceptions and not the rule... Before I make a risk/reward analysis for my family and our decisions, I need to see some numbers.

                                        The Brad

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                                          What numbers do you want to see? Adverse events at two months? Six months? A year? Two years?

                                          My guess is the six month data will be available before you’d come up in the queue. Maybe even the 1 year.

                                          You were warned.

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