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    Jolly
    wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 12:51 last edited by
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    The Chinese strike again...

    https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/illinois-spent-17-million-on-masks-that-are-now-being-recalled-in-other-states/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 12:54 last edited by
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      My prediction: There will be a bill when this is over to repatriate critical medical manufacturing.

      Then it’ll get watered down to useless in the Senate and we’ll be in more or less the same place.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        Jolly
        wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 12:57 last edited by
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        I'm not so sure. I think the country is bipartisan pissed at the Chinese. Bringing back essential medical is good for us and won't effect their bottom line very much.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Copper
          wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 13:14 last edited by
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          Yes, I think the memory of this will be long, many years.

          My take is that the panic is widespread and the result will be a significant federal budget to the lucky federal agency that manages the recovery.

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            Mik
            wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 14:27 last edited by Mik
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            This should be a wakeup call to the globalists. The world is still not a friendly place.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              Loki
              wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 14:31 last edited by
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              I agree with Jon. People are too used to cheap prices. It always wins.

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                Mik
                wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 15:08 last edited by
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                Not as cheap as they used to be and I suspect they are going to get squeezed pretty good.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  19 Apr 2020, 15:08

                  Not as cheap as they used to be and I suspect they are going to get squeezed pretty good.

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                  Loki
                  wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 15:11 last edited by
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                  @Mik said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:

                  Not as cheap as they used to be and I suspect they are going to get squeezed pretty good.

                  A more diverse supply chain...but still outside the US.

                  Nearsourcing in Mexico could be one example.

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 16:05 last edited by
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                    Much rather see our dollars go to Mexico. It increases American security.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 16:14 last edited by
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                      Vietnam. Indonesia. Mexico. Central America.

                      In America, Puerto Rico or rural parts of the country.

                      Canada, Great Britain, the former Eastern Bloc.

                      Different level goods for different regions. Especially essential goods.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Mik
                        wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 16:31 last edited by
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                        Yes indeed. If we were to invest more in the western hemisphere it could be very good for us.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 16:42 last edited by
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                          You can't abandon countries neighboring China. We have to be active in the region.

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                            taiwan_girl
                            wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 17:28 last edited by
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                            I think that we on this forum board are all guilty. We talk about wanting to buy local, but my guess is that most of us (me included) will mainly shop on price. If we go into the store and there are too (somewhat) identical items, most people will buy the cheaper. Yes, yes, yes, I understand that "you get what you pay for", but a lot/most people $$$ savings > possible quality increase.

                            Companies follow the money. Seventy years ago, it was "Made in Japan", then it was "Made in Taiwan", then it was/is "Made in China". But already, companies are moving to other countries in SE Asia and East Asia as Jolly says above.

                            But I agree with JonNYC, I think it will be very very very difficult to force a consumer product to be made in the US. Military, etc., is one thing, but consumer is something different in my opinion.

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 19:06 last edited by
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                              Not me. I usually buy quality, not price. There is cost and there is value, and both must be considered. all my meat is local, and come spring and summer my produce will be too. Most of my baked goods are local. I pay a little more but I know what I'm getting and I know it is a better product.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 19:13 last edited by
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                                Same for most food items.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  Copper
                                  wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 22:04 last edited by
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                                  I would never buy a foreign car, no way.

                                  Price matters, the feds can fix that with tariffs.

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                                    19 Apr 2020, 22:04

                                    I would never buy a foreign car, no way.

                                    Price matters, the feds can fix that with tariffs.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 22:26 last edited by
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                                    @Copper said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:

                                    I would never buy a foreign car, no way.

                                    Do Hondas count as "foreign?"

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Copper
                                      wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 22:58 last edited by
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                                      Ford, GM, Jeep make more than enough cars to supply me.

                                      Yes, I know Honda, Acura and Toyota have a high percentage of US manufacturing in them. But as a boomer it just doesn't sit right with me.

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                                        19 Apr 2020, 22:58

                                        Ford, GM, Jeep make more than enough cars to supply me.

                                        Yes, I know Honda, Acura and Toyota have a high percentage of US manufacturing in them. But as a boomer it just doesn't sit right with me.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 23:00 last edited by jon-nyc
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                                        @Copper said in Meanwhile in Illinois...:

                                        But as a boomer it just doesn't sit right with me.

                                        Ok, boomer.

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 19 Apr 2020, 23:09 last edited by
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                                          Yup, it will die out.

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