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  • RenaudaR Renauda

    I may not live in the US or have US citizenship but I every right to comment upon and criticise American political events and persons. Especially when policies or statements emanating out the White House have or are affecting the country in which I live. That right extends to anyone else from outside the USA who posts here regularly or from time to time and wishes to comment. It is, after all, an open forum.

    Think of us outliers then as disenfranchised stakeholders whose observations and comments are of no consequence. That, I am sure, would suit us just fine.

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    Catseye3
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    @Renauda said in Buyer's Remorse:

    I may not live in the US or have US citizenship but I every right to comment upon and criticise American political events and persons. Especially when policies or statements emanating out the White House have or are affecting the country in which I live.

    AFAIC you're welcome here whenever you care to come in and comment, Renauda.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      Trump is not a conservative, but he has governed as one.

      Probably more conservative in action than any President since Reagan.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        taiwan_girl
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        #51

        What is “traditional” conservatism?

        What is “current” conservative?

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        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

          What is “traditional” conservatism?

          What is “current” conservative?

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          Jolly
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          #52

          @taiwan_girl said in Buyer's Remorse:

          What is “traditional” conservatism?

          What is “current” conservative?

          Ask Renauda.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            @taiwan_girl said in Buyer's Remorse:

            What is “traditional” conservatism?

            What is “current” conservative?

            Ask Renauda.

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            #53

            @Jolly said in Buyer's Remorse:

            @taiwan_girl said in Buyer's Remorse:

            What is “traditional” conservatism?

            What is “current” conservative?

            Ask Renauda.

            Okay @Renauda

            But I would also be interested in your opinion Jolly. There much difference in your mind, or has it changed from now to before?

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              LuFins Dad
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              #54

              Whoa

              The Brad

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                Jolly
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                #55

                It was no secret Biden is Captain Lockdown. The Man practically took a bullhorn and shouted it from the rooftops.

                This is a subject upon which Biden was very clear about his possible actions.

                Don't blame Joe.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Mik
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                  #56

                  He can advocate, but I don't believe he has to power to impose them short of martial law.

                  Heres what NPR said about it in April. We shall see what they say about it now.

                  https://www.npr.org/2020/04/02/825293201/a-president-is-not-able-to-order-a-national-quarantine-experts-say

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • MikM Mik

                    He can advocate, but I don't believe he has to power to impose them short of martial law.

                    Heres what NPR said about it in April. We shall see what they say about it now.

                    https://www.npr.org/2020/04/02/825293201/a-president-is-not-able-to-order-a-national-quarantine-experts-say

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                    Jolly
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                    #57

                    @Mik said in Buyer's Remorse:

                    He can advocate, but I don't believe he has to power to impose them short of martial law.

                    Heres what NPR said about it in April. We shall see what they say about it now.

                    https://www.npr.org/2020/04/02/825293201/a-president-is-not-able-to-order-a-national-quarantine-experts-say

                    That didn't stop the national press from lambasting Trump for not locking the country down or for not throwing the concept of Federalism out the window...

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @Jolly said in Buyer's Remorse:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Buyer's Remorse:

                      What is “traditional” conservatism?

                      What is “current” conservative?

                      Ask Renauda.

                      Okay @Renauda

                      But I would also be interested in your opinion Jolly. There much difference in your mind, or has it changed from now to before?

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                      Renauda
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                      #58

                      @taiwan_girl said in Buyer's Remorse:

                      @Jolly said in Buyer's Remorse:

                      @taiwan_girl said in Buyer's Remorse:

                      What is “traditional” conservatism?

                      What is “current” conservative?

                      Ask Renauda.

                      Okay @Renauda

                      I don't really care to go down that rabbit hole of broad opinion. Besides, there is no single definitive or correct answer.

                      Suffice to say that my understanding of conservatism will differ substantially from what others here regard as as conservatism. In Canada, Kamala Harris could easily be a member of the Conservative Party of Canada and thought of as a Red Tory. Likewise, she could just as easily be thought of as a conservative member of the federal Liberal Party caucus. Very unlikely however that she would occupy any role in the more left of centre, ND Party. I realise that such a statement on my part should elicit more than just a few sardonic laughs and outraged guffaws of feigning indignation from certain quarters of this Forum. So be it. That is precisely why I approach any definition or description of conservatism with reluctance.

                      However for the sake of simplicity and a desire to oblige at least a portion of your question, I would defer to the respected late American conservative political theorist, Russell Kirk ( Bio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Kirk ) and his
                      Ten Conservative Principles as a good place as any to start looking for an answer:

                      https://kirkcenter.org/conservatism/ten-conservative-principles/#:~:text= Ten Conservative Principles 1 First%2C the,principle of prescription. . Conservatives sense... More

                      Elbows up!

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                        LuFins Dad
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                        My point is not about the lockdown but about Buyer's Remorse...

                        Naomi Wolfe is a very well known Progressive Feminist Author...

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          My point is not about the lockdown but about Buyer's Remorse...

                          Naomi Wolfe is a very well known Progressive Feminist Author...

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #60

                          @LuFins-Dad said in Buyer's Remorse:

                          My point is not about the lockdown but about Buyer's Remorse...

                          Naomi Wolfe is a very well known Progressive Feminist Author...

                          But Biden was very upfront about lockdowns. She should have factored that in, well before voting.

                          When I think of buyer's remorse, it's when the item turns out to be something that didn't work or wasn't what you thought it was...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            Joe Biden didn't accomplish a single thing in the 47 years he's been a politician. And of the things he WAS involved in, he made the exact wrong choice every single time. You can expect that trend to continue, only the damage he will do now will be far greater.

                            But hey - those of you who wanted him..... You have to live with what's coming.

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                            • George KG George K

                              @Jolly said in Buyer's Remorse:

                              There will be NO honeymoon.

                              Politically, you're right. With the House being so tight, and with a Senate presumably held by the GOP, he's going to have a rough go of it.

                              Socially, I disagree. The press and our betters in the entertainment industry are slobbering all over this, and it'll last for a while. John Legend was singing "Georgia On My Mind" last night. We can expect another 2-4 months of this fellating.

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                              George K
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                              @George-K said in Buyer's Remorse:

                              The press and our betters in the entertainment industry are slobbering all over this, and it'll last for a while...We can expect another 2-4 months of this fellating.

                              https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/526446-joe-bidens-friendly-press-conferences-are-an-absolute-joke

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG George K

                                @George-K said in Buyer's Remorse:

                                The press and our betters in the entertainment industry are slobbering all over this, and it'll last for a while...We can expect another 2-4 months of this fellating.

                                https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/526446-joe-bidens-friendly-press-conferences-are-an-absolute-joke

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #63

                                @George-K said in Buyer's Remorse:

                                @George-K said in Buyer's Remorse:

                                The press and our betters in the entertainment industry are slobbering all over this, and it'll last for a while...We can expect another 2-4 months of this fellating.

                                https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/526446-joe-bidens-friendly-press-conferences-are-an-absolute-joke

                                Oh, I think the dick sucking will go on a lot longer than 4 months...

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • RenaudaR Renauda

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Buyer's Remorse:

                                  @Jolly said in Buyer's Remorse:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Buyer's Remorse:

                                  What is “traditional” conservatism?

                                  What is “current” conservative?

                                  Ask Renauda.

                                  Okay @Renauda

                                  I don't really care to go down that rabbit hole of broad opinion. Besides, there is no single definitive or correct answer.

                                  Suffice to say that my understanding of conservatism will differ substantially from what others here regard as as conservatism. In Canada, Kamala Harris could easily be a member of the Conservative Party of Canada and thought of as a Red Tory. Likewise, she could just as easily be thought of as a conservative member of the federal Liberal Party caucus. Very unlikely however that she would occupy any role in the more left of centre, ND Party. I realise that such a statement on my part should elicit more than just a few sardonic laughs and outraged guffaws of feigning indignation from certain quarters of this Forum. So be it. That is precisely why I approach any definition or description of conservatism with reluctance.

                                  However for the sake of simplicity and a desire to oblige at least a portion of your question, I would defer to the respected late American conservative political theorist, Russell Kirk ( Bio: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Kirk ) and his
                                  Ten Conservative Principles as a good place as any to start looking for an answer:

                                  https://kirkcenter.org/conservatism/ten-conservative-principles/#:~:text= Ten Conservative Principles 1 First%2C the,principle of prescription. . Conservatives sense... More

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                                  @Renauda I had never read those before. A fine description.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    Renauda is a smart guy, I know that. I wish he posted here more often, but he seems to have categorized us.

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                                    Renauda
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                                    #65

                                    @Horace said in Buyer's Remorse:

                                    Renauda is a smart guy, I know that. I wish he posted here more often, but he seems to have categorized us.

                                    True enough, I find the reactionaries here either amusingly disdainful or disdainfully amusing. Depends on my mood.

                                    Elbows up!

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                                      Copper
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                                      Bless your heart

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                                        Jolly
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                                        #67

                                        When voters are finally informed of the Hunter Biden mess, 5% or more of Dem voters said they would not have voted for Biden. That may well have turned the election.

                                        Big Tech and the MSM did a fine job covering that one up...

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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