What’s your over/under on a Trump family indictment?
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He mentioned that if he loses he might leave the country.
Where I’m going with this thread is they have a lot of legal problems that were essentially on hold while he was in office. All that changes in January. The case being pursued by Vance is criminal.
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Maybe he’ll start his own country! Get some investors together and buy a large island...
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Maybe he’ll start his own country! Get some investors together and buy a large island...
@LuFins-Dad said in What’s your over/under on a Trump family indictment?:
Maybe he’ll start his own country! Get some investors together and buy a large island...
Which investors will still trust Trump with their money?
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Maybe one way to help in answering this question -- since we can't really know for certain what will happen -- is to think about his motives for seeking a second term so energetically. His first term can't have been a joyride for him, at least from the bits we the public were allowed to see.
There were many moments of humiliation for him, not something he handles well. (Remember the booing at the baseball park?) I would not have been surprised if he had chosen not to run again, on some pretext.
It could be that his pursuit of re-election was fueled by his certain knowledge of his fate in New York.
Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka
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I read this thread and am absolutely amazed at how crazy the Left truly are.
Sock has been wrong about everything he's said for the last 4 years, but he just keeps on saying it. Same with Ax. But they have an excuse - they're both idiots. Jon can't use that as an excuse.
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Maybe one way to help in answering this question -- since we can't really know for certain what will happen -- is to think about his motives for seeking a second term so energetically. His first term can't have been a joyride for him, at least from the bits we the public were allowed to see.
There were many moments of humiliation for him, not something he handles well. (Remember the booing at the baseball park?) I would not have been surprised if he had chosen not to run again, on some pretext.
It could be that his pursuit of re-election was fueled by his certain knowledge of his fate in New York.
@Catseye3 said in What’s your over/under on a Trump family indictment?:
is to think about his motives for seeking a second term so energetically.
I think it it just the ego of power - not only for President Trump but for anyone in that position.
For a rational mind, the job of President is terrible. Half the people hate you no matter what you do. Lots of things are outside your control. There is never any “down time”. You really don’t have a life. Etc etc
But the aspect of power is very flattering and strong. I think that is what “drives” these people.
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Except the Trump organization is under active criminal investigation and has been for 2 years.
Hunter has been investigated by Giuliani and Carlson since late October.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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Except the Trump organization is under active criminal investigation and has been for 2 years.
Hunter has been investigated by Giuliani and Carlson since late October.
@jon-nyc said in What’s your over/under on a Trump family indictment?:
Except the Trump organization is under active criminal investigation and has been for 2 years.
Hunter has been investigated by Giuliani and Carlson since late October.
yeah but the tie of Hunter to Joe was the problematic piece.
Just something to think about in the pursuit of the Trumps. Would be impossible to avoid Hunter and I suspect the evidence is not just overwhelming but easy to prosecute quickly.
I’d say leave them all alone for the sake of the country.
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That’s Biden’s view. The doj going after Trump won’t happen for that reason.
The Trump org in NY is what’s being investigated. Wouldn’t be shocking to see Don Jr get some bracelets and a perp walk out of it but it’s by no means a certainty.
But I’ll move my over/under to 16 months.
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That’s Biden’s view. The doj going after Trump won’t happen for that reason.
The Trump org in NY is what’s being investigated. Wouldn’t be shocking to see Don Jr get some bracelets and a perp walk out of it but it’s by no means a certainty.
But I’ll move my over/under to 16 months.
@jon-nyc said in What’s your over/under on a Trump family indictment?:
That’s Biden’s view. The doj going after Trump won’t happen for that reason.
The Trump org in NY is what’s being investigated. Wouldn’t be shocking to see Don Jr get some bracelets and a perp walk out of it but it’s by no means a certainty.
But I’ll move my over/under to 16 months.
Oh I get the difference. I guess I’m old school about well placed phone calls. SDNY has been bad ass, we will see how authentic that is.
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Except the Trump organization is under active criminal investigation and has been for 2 years.
Hunter has been investigated by Giuliani and Carlson since late October.
@jon-nyc said in What’s your over/under on a Trump family indictment?:
Except the Trump organization is under active criminal investigation and has been for 2 years.
Hunter has been investigated by Giuliani and Carlson since late October.
I suspect over $100M has been spent investigating the Trumps.
Helluva waste of money.
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@jon-nyc said in What’s your over/under on a Trump family indictment?:
Pass the popcorn, please.
It's sort of cute watching you get all excited over something you read in the Washington Post, Jon. It's as though you actually believe stuff you read frm there lol.
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Except the Trump organization is under active criminal investigation and has been for 2 years.
Hunter has been investigated by Giuliani and Carlson since late October.
@jon-nyc said in What’s your over/under on a Trump family indictment?:
Except the Trump organization is under active criminal investigation and has been for 2 years.
Hunter has been investigated by Giuliani and Carlson since late October.
Since no one else revisited this one...we now know there is criminal investigation of Hunter for some time now.
I predict indictments come out of Hunter's case first, and that Hunter falls afoul of the law before anyone in the Trump camp.
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Scotus denies Trump’s case.
His accountants must now turn over financial records to Vance.
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Trump Grand Jury Ends As Indictment in Manhattan Appears Increasingly Unlikely: Reports
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A six-month grand jury convened to hear evidence in the investigation into the business dealings of former President Donald Trump has reportedly ended, and no charges are expected to be filed as the investigation appears to be waning.
Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg recently ceased sending evidence to jurors. Bragg inherited the investigation from his predecessor, Cyrus Vance.
Vance began the investigation following allegations Trump’s business lied about the value of its properties. It was alleged the Trump Organization did so for the purposes of leveraging tax breaks and receiving preferential loan treatment.
Shayna Jacobs, Josh Dawsey and Jonathan O’Connell with the Post reported:
A six-month grand jury that was convened late last year to hear evidence against Donald Trump was set to expire this week, closing a chapter in a lengthy criminal investigation that appears to be fizzling out without charges against the former president, people familiar with matter said.
Meanwhile, the New York Times also reported it appears unlikely Trump will ever be indicted in Manhattan, although Bragg had previously said he would officially announce when the investigation is over.
As of Friday evening, a “war room” where prosecutors had organized their investigation into Trump had been vacated. The Times reported:
Some people close to the inquiry believe that it will not result in an indictment of the former president unless a witness cooperates unexpectedly — a long shot in an investigation that has been running for more than three years.
The Times added impaneling another grand jury is unlikely, as doing so could make the district attorney’s office appear as though it is seeking to find “a more favorable group of jurors.”
Additionally, if a crime was committed by the Trump organization, it could be beyond the statute of limitations of five years.
A separate investigation by New York Attorney General Letitia James continues.
