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What’s your over/under on a Trump family indictment?

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  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

    Except the Trump organization is under active criminal investigation and has been for 2 years.

    Hunter has been investigated by Giuliani and Carlson since late October.

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    @jon-nyc said in What’s your over/under on a Trump family indictment?:

    Except the Trump organization is under active criminal investigation and has been for 2 years.

    Hunter has been investigated by Giuliani and Carlson since late October.

    yeah but the tie of Hunter to Joe was the problematic piece.

    Just something to think about in the pursuit of the Trumps. Would be impossible to avoid Hunter and I suspect the evidence is not just overwhelming but easy to prosecute quickly.

    I’d say leave them all alone for the sake of the country.

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      That’s Biden’s view. The doj going after Trump won’t happen for that reason.

      The Trump org in NY is what’s being investigated. Wouldn’t be shocking to see Don Jr get some bracelets and a perp walk out of it but it’s by no means a certainty.

      But I’ll move my over/under to 16 months.

      Only non-witches get due process.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        That’s Biden’s view. The doj going after Trump won’t happen for that reason.

        The Trump org in NY is what’s being investigated. Wouldn’t be shocking to see Don Jr get some bracelets and a perp walk out of it but it’s by no means a certainty.

        But I’ll move my over/under to 16 months.

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        @jon-nyc said in What’s your over/under on a Trump family indictment?:

        That’s Biden’s view. The doj going after Trump won’t happen for that reason.

        The Trump org in NY is what’s being investigated. Wouldn’t be shocking to see Don Jr get some bracelets and a perp walk out of it but it’s by no means a certainty.

        But I’ll move my over/under to 16 months.

        Oh I get the difference. I guess I’m old school about well placed phone calls. SDNY has been bad ass, we will see how authentic that is.

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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Except the Trump organization is under active criminal investigation and has been for 2 years.

          Hunter has been investigated by Giuliani and Carlson since late October.

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          @jon-nyc said in What’s your over/under on a Trump family indictment?:

          Except the Trump organization is under active criminal investigation and has been for 2 years.

          Hunter has been investigated by Giuliani and Carlson since late October.

          I suspect over $100M has been spent investigating the Trumps.

          Helluva waste of money.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            Pass the popcorn, please.

            https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-tax-returns-new-york-investigation/2020/12/29/11c43a38-43c8-11eb-b0e4-0f182923a025_story.html

            Only non-witches get due process.

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              @jon-nyc said in What’s your over/under on a Trump family indictment?:

              Pass the popcorn, please.

              https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-tax-returns-new-york-investigation/2020/12/29/11c43a38-43c8-11eb-b0e4-0f182923a025_story.html

              It's sort of cute watching you get all excited over something you read in the Washington Post, Jon. It's as though you actually believe stuff you read frm there lol.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                Except the Trump organization is under active criminal investigation and has been for 2 years.

                Hunter has been investigated by Giuliani and Carlson since late October.

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                @jon-nyc said in What’s your over/under on a Trump family indictment?:

                Except the Trump organization is under active criminal investigation and has been for 2 years.

                Hunter has been investigated by Giuliani and Carlson since late October.

                Since no one else revisited this one...we now know there is criminal investigation of Hunter for some time now.

                I predict indictments come out of Hunter's case first, and that Hunter falls afoul of the law before anyone in the Trump camp.

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                  Scotus denies Trump’s case.

                  His accountants must now turn over financial records to Vance.

                  https://www.scotusblog.com/2021/02/justices-will-not-block-new-york-grand-jury-subpoena-for-trumps-records/

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    Trump Grand Jury Ends As Indictment in Manhattan Appears Increasingly Unlikely: Reports

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                    A six-month grand jury convened to hear evidence in the investigation into the business dealings of former President Donald Trump has reportedly ended, and no charges are expected to be filed as the investigation appears to be waning.

                    Manhattan district attorney Alvin Bragg recently ceased sending evidence to jurors. Bragg inherited the investigation from his predecessor, Cyrus Vance.

                    Vance began the investigation following allegations Trump’s business lied about the value of its properties. It was alleged the Trump Organization did so for the purposes of leveraging tax breaks and receiving preferential loan treatment.

                    Shayna Jacobs, Josh Dawsey and Jonathan O’Connell with the Post reported:

                    A six-month grand jury that was convened late last year to hear evidence against Donald Trump was set to expire this week, closing a chapter in a lengthy criminal investigation that appears to be fizzling out without charges against the former president, people familiar with matter said.

                    Meanwhile, the New York Times also reported it appears unlikely Trump will ever be indicted in Manhattan, although Bragg had previously said he would officially announce when the investigation is over.

                    As of Friday evening, a “war room” where prosecutors had organized their investigation into Trump had been vacated. The Times reported:

                    Some people close to the inquiry believe that it will not result in an indictment of the former president unless a witness cooperates unexpectedly — a long shot in an investigation that has been running for more than three years.

                    The Times added impaneling another grand jury is unlikely, as doing so could make the district attorney’s office appear as though it is seeking to find “a more favorable group of jurors.”

                    Additionally, if a crime was committed by the Trump organization, it could be beyond the statute of limitations of five years.

                    A separate investigation by New York Attorney General Letitia James continues.

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                      Apologies for all?

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                        Don't hold your breath...

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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