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  • KlausK Offline
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    Klaus
    wrote on last edited by
    #98

    Here's one thing I don't understand.

    Why is it important to "claim victory"? Why is it important whether a party "concedes"?

    The official results will come in sooner or later, and then it doesn't matter what anyone claimed or conceded, no?

    RichR Aqua LetiferA 89th8 3 Replies Last reply
    • KlausK Klaus

      Here's one thing I don't understand.

      Why is it important to "claim victory"? Why is it important whether a party "concedes"?

      The official results will come in sooner or later, and then it doesn't matter what anyone claimed or conceded, no?

      RichR Online
      RichR Online
      Rich
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      #99

      @Klaus

      Yeah, those were the days.

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      • KlausK Klaus

        Here's one thing I don't understand.

        Why is it important to "claim victory"? Why is it important whether a party "concedes"?

        The official results will come in sooner or later, and then it doesn't matter what anyone claimed or conceded, no?

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        Aqua Letifer
        wrote on last edited by
        #100

        @Klaus said in Calling the States:

        The official results will come in sooner or later, and then it doesn't matter what anyone claimed or conceded, no?

        Candidates can gum up the works by demanding a recount.

        Please love yourself.

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          bachophile
          wrote on last edited by
          #101

          I’ve been up since 5 am

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          • KlausK Klaus

            Here's one thing I don't understand.

            Why is it important to "claim victory"? Why is it important whether a party "concedes"?

            The official results will come in sooner or later, and then it doesn't matter what anyone claimed or conceded, no?

            89th8 Offline
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            89th
            wrote on last edited by
            #102

            @Klaus said in Calling the States:

            Here's one thing I don't understand.

            Why is it important to "claim victory"? Why is it important whether a party "concedes"?

            The prime example is Gore in 2000. After he called to concede to Bush, and later Florida returned to “too close to call”, at that point it made Gore look like a whining loser as opposed to if he had not conceded, the resulting county by county recount would’ve looked more objective. Ultimately Bush won because the courts told Gore’s team basically to stop cherry picking which (dem leaning) counties to recount.

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            • 89th8 Offline
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              #103

              Have to admit, I woke up this morning and the race is closer than I expected! Still don’t see Trump winning though. Odds don’t look good to get to 270 and there’s going to be a trickle in of mail in votes that will favor Biden overall.

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              • 89th8 Offline
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                89th
                wrote on last edited by
                #104

                Oh, it’s nice to see the senate/house is likely not a blue wave. That’s a nice surprise if it holds.

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                • KlausK Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #105

                  It would be nice if somebody could tell Trump to either present evidence for all his vague insinuations of election fraud, or to STFU about it.

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    Have to admit, I woke up this morning and the race is closer than I expected! Still don’t see Trump winning though. Odds don’t look good to get to 270 and there’s going to be a trickle in of mail in votes that will favor Biden overall.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by Jolly
                    #106

                    @89th said in Calling the States:

                    Have to admit, I woke up this morning and the race is closer than I expected! Still don’t see Trump winning though. Odds don’t look good to get to 270 and there’s going to be a trickle in of mail in votes that will favor Biden overall.

                    Yep, your Biden landslide prediction stunk..

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                      LuFins Dad
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                      #107

                      Trump’s lead in Michigan won’t stand up to the early vote influx. It’s over.

                      The Brad

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                      • KlausK Klaus

                        It would be nice if somebody could tell Trump to either present evidence for all his vague insinuations of election fraud, or to STFU about it.

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        #108

                        @Klaus said in Calling the States:

                        It would be nice if somebody could tell Trump to either present evidence for all his vague insinuations of election fraud, or to STFU about it.

                        Philly has long been known as a hotbed of fraud. That's one problem.

                        Another is the manipulation of mail-in ballots. There are multiple problems with those, but Pennsylvania is horrible. Signatures don't have to match, envelopes cannot be matched with ballots after an initial count and they are counting ballots received up to three days past the election date.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @Klaus said in Calling the States:

                          It would be nice if somebody could tell Trump to either present evidence for all his vague insinuations of election fraud, or to STFU about it.

                          Philly has long been known as a hotbed of fraud. That's one problem.

                          Another is the manipulation of mail-in ballots. There are multiple problems with those, but Pennsylvania is horrible. Signatures don't have to match, envelopes cannot be matched with ballots after an initial count and they are counting ballots received up to three days past the election date.

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                          Klaus
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #109

                          @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                          @Klaus said in Calling the States:

                          It would be nice if somebody could tell Trump to either present evidence for all his vague insinuations of election fraud, or to STFU about it.

                          Philly has long been known as a hotbed of fraud. That's one problem.

                          Another is the manipulation of mail-in ballots. There are multiple problems with those, but Pennsylvania is horrible. Signatures don't have to match, envelopes cannot be matched with ballots after an initial count and they are counting ballots received up to three days past the election date.

                          I don't know about that, but if that is the case, he should present the evidence, if there is any. Without presenting evidence, this is just deeply unfair and undemocratic.

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                          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                            Trump’s lead in Michigan won’t stand up to the early vote influx. It’s over.

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                            Loki
                            wrote on last edited by Loki
                            #110

                            @LuFins-Dad said in Calling the States:

                            Trump’s lead in Michigan won’t stand up to the early vote influx. It’s over.

                            We saw this all night in the states where Biden had a big lead early on only to have the in person votes be counted and Trump win. So it’s the opposite now in MI, WI and PA

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                              LuFins Dad
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                              #111

                              Arizona May still be in play, apparently a lot of the uncounted ballots are from areas that favor Trump.

                              The Brad

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                                #112

                                The democrats are trying to steal the election. Pure and simple.

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                                • 89th8 Offline
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                                  #113

                                  A tie would be fun for 2020.

                                  If Trump wins GA, PA, and MI, it’ll be 269-269

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    A tie would be fun for 2020.

                                    If Trump wins GA, PA, and MI, it’ll be 269-269

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #114

                                    @89th said in Calling the States:

                                    A tie would be fun for 2020.

                                    If Trump wins GA, PA, and MI, it’ll be 269-269

                                    And Trump would win the election in the House.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • KlausK Klaus

                                      @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                                      @Klaus said in Calling the States:

                                      It would be nice if somebody could tell Trump to either present evidence for all his vague insinuations of election fraud, or to STFU about it.

                                      Philly has long been known as a hotbed of fraud. That's one problem.

                                      Another is the manipulation of mail-in ballots. There are multiple problems with those, but Pennsylvania is horrible. Signatures don't have to match, envelopes cannot be matched with ballots after an initial count and they are counting ballots received up to three days past the election date.

                                      I don't know about that, but if that is the case, he should present the evidence, if there is any. Without presenting evidence, this is just deeply unfair and undemocratic.

                                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                                      #115

                                      @Klaus said in Calling the States:

                                      @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                                      @Klaus said in Calling the States:

                                      It would be nice if somebody could tell Trump to either present evidence for all his vague insinuations of election fraud, or to STFU about it.

                                      Philly has long been known as a hotbed of fraud. That's one problem.

                                      Another is the manipulation of mail-in ballots. There are multiple problems with those, but Pennsylvania is horrible. Signatures don't have to match, envelopes cannot be matched with ballots after an initial count and they are counting ballots received up to three days past the election date.

                                      I don't know about that, but if that is the case, he should present the evidence, if there is any. Without presenting evidence, this is just deeply unfair and undemocratic.

                                      It's incredible, isn't it. For a country that aspires, and often claims, to be the democracy that the rest of the world should aspire to be, the level of undemocratic behaviour and language used is ridiculous. It's more like the behaviour you'd expect from a banana republic.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                        @Klaus said in Calling the States:

                                        @Jolly said in Calling the States:

                                        @Klaus said in Calling the States:

                                        It would be nice if somebody could tell Trump to either present evidence for all his vague insinuations of election fraud, or to STFU about it.

                                        Philly has long been known as a hotbed of fraud. That's one problem.

                                        Another is the manipulation of mail-in ballots. There are multiple problems with those, but Pennsylvania is horrible. Signatures don't have to match, envelopes cannot be matched with ballots after an initial count and they are counting ballots received up to three days past the election date.

                                        I don't know about that, but if that is the case, he should present the evidence, if there is any. Without presenting evidence, this is just deeply unfair and undemocratic.

                                        It's incredible, isn't it. For a country that aspires, and often claims, to be the democracy that the rest of the world should aspire to be, the level of undemocratic behaviour and language used is ridiculous. It's more like the behaviour you'd expect from a banana republic.

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                                        Klaus
                                        wrote on last edited by Klaus
                                        #116

                                        @Doctor-Phibes Indeed. It's also insane how some of Trumps followers seem to believe every word that comes out of his mouth, regardless of how free of evidence it is - as we've just witnessed in this thread. The guy could say that the next winter is a summer and an amazing number of people would start wearing shorts in the snow.

                                        Daniel Hannan said it well, in my opinion.

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                                        • KlausK Klaus

                                          @Doctor-Phibes Indeed. It's also insane how some of Trumps followers seem to believe every word that comes out of his mouth, regardless of how free of evidence it is - as we've just witnessed in this thread. The guy could say that the next winter is a summer and an amazing number of people would start wearing shorts in the snow.

                                          Daniel Hannan said it well, in my opinion.

                                          Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #117

                                          @Klaus said in Calling the States:

                                          @Doctor-Phibes Indeed. It's also insane how some of Trumps followers seem to believe every word that comes out of his mouth, regardless of how free of evidence it is - as we've just witnessed in this thread. The guy could say that the next winter is a summer and an amazing number of people would start wearing shorts in the snow.

                                          Daniel Hannan said it well, in my opinion.

                                          And when somebody says they dislike Trump, it's described as a derangement syndrome. There's a lot to dislike IMHO.

                                          Believing everything he says seems pretty deranged to me. It's almost like he's got Jedi mind skills. 'These are not the votes you're looking for...'

                                          I was only joking

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