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Governor Nuisance to Delay Covid Vaccine

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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #4

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/ahead-of-covid-19-vaccine-half-of-americans-indicate-reluctance-wsj-nbc-poll-finds-11602734460

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Jolly
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      In other words, if some are reluctant to take the vaccine, we should not offer it?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        #6

        We should do what we can to increase confidence in the process that Trump has already done grave damage to.

        Part of that is firing him in 2 weeks.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          You know the FDA process for medication. Do you think Biden could have gotten anything done this fast?

          And I know the approval process for testing a helluva lot better than most. The speed of approval for tests is unlike anything in my lifetime. I don't think Biden has the balls to do what Trump did to the FDA, in regards to testing.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            jon-nyc
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            #8

            Really I think these state bodies don't really need to do much other than see if the process followed the FDA guidance published in June and the emergency authorization guidance published 2 weeks ago.

            If Trump and Azar overrule that guidance, the states merely need to enforce it. That doesn't delay the process, it restores it.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              We should do what we can to increase confidence in the process that Trump has already done grave damage to.

              Part of that is firing him in 2 weeks.

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              @jon-nyc said in Governor Nuisance to Delay Covid Vaccine:

              We should do what we can to increase confidence in the process that Trump has already done grave damage to.

              Part of that is firing him in 2 weeks.

              My trust in a vaccine is 100% independent of Trump. I’ll bite and trust your comment is intellectually honest. Now explain why trust is gravely damaged in the public.

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                jon-nyc
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                I wrote about it in depth here.

                https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/3519/more-vaccine-drama?_=1603149277362

                Since then he has pushed back against FDA guidance on emergency approval considerations. All with the same end in mind, his own electoral fortunes.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                • MikM Offline
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                  Mik
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                  Whether I take it right away depends on the technology, If it is a standard, well tested for of vaccine technology I will get it ASAP. If it's new technology which has been worked with I may wait just a bit.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    From the same wsj piece:

                    The Journal/NBC News poll interviewed 1,000 registered voters from Oct. 9-12. The margin of error was plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

                    The Journal/NBC News poll interviewed 1,000 registered voters from Oct. 9-12. The margin of error was plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

                    The poll didn’t detail reasons why respondents might or might not be interested in taking a vaccine.

                    Only 10% of Black people said they would take a vaccine once one became available, compared with 20% of white people and 12% of Hispanic people, according to the survey. Thirty percent of Black people said they would not take a vaccine at all, compared with 15% of white people and 20% of Hispanic people, according to the WSJ/NBC poll.

                    The poll found that 82% of registered Democrats would take a vaccine immediately or after learning more about side effects, compared with 62% of Republican voters. The poll also found that individuals with college or graduate school degrees were more likely to say they would take a vaccine.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Governor Nuisance to Delay Covid Vaccine:

                    The poll also found that individuals with college or graduate school degrees were more likely to say they would take a vaccine.

                    Because they are so much smarter or because they have been subjected to more indoctrination and are more pliant?

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                      Copper
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                      As far as when to take the vaccine is concerned, I assume the Ministry of Truth will let us know as the level of safety develops.

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                      • MikM Mik

                        Whether I take it right away depends on the technology, If it is a standard, well tested for of vaccine technology I will get it ASAP. If it's new technology which has been worked with I may wait just a bit.

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                        @Mik said in Governor Nuisance to Delay Covid Vaccine:

                        Whether I take it right away depends on the technology, If it is a standard, well tested for of vaccine technology I will get it ASAP. If it's new technology which has been worked with I may wait just a bit.

                        The crazy-long Twitter thread Bach(?) posted about vaccine technology is pretty instructive on that. I think chances are good that it won't be one of the more innovative vaccines that are the first out of the gate.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @Mik said in Governor Nuisance to Delay Covid Vaccine:

                          Whether I take it right away depends on the technology, If it is a standard, well tested for of vaccine technology I will get it ASAP. If it's new technology which has been worked with I may wait just a bit.

                          The crazy-long Twitter thread Bach(?) posted about vaccine technology is pretty instructive on that. I think chances are good that it won't be one of the more innovative vaccines that are the first out of the gate.

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                          Mik
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                          @Aqua-Letifer yes, I agree.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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