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Governor Nuisance to Delay Covid Vaccine

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  • JoeBJ Offline
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    JoeB
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    We don’t need no steenking vaccine here in California.
    Every month we can delay the vaccine is a month we (the Democratic machine) hold absolute power.

    “SACRAMENTO, Calif. —
    As the quest for a COVID-19 vaccine continues, Gov. Gavin Newsom said Monday that California is launching a scientific safety review workgroup in which top health experts will independently review vaccines that are approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration before distribution happens in the state.

    "This vaccine plan will move at the speed of trust. You have to have confidence in the efficacy of the vaccine, confidence that we’re not rushing to judgement in terms of its distribution and its accessibility," Newsom said during his noon press briefing.”

    [link text](link https://www.kcra.com/article/gov-newsom-covid-california-wildfires-oct-19/34416922?src=app# url)

    "There are many ingredients in the stew of annoyance." - Bucky Katt

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    • jon-nycJ Online
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      jon-nyc
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      #2

      If it serves to improve these numbers, then it's worth it. If it doesn't, it's not.

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      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        jon-nyc
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        #3

        From the same wsj piece:

        The Journal/NBC News poll interviewed 1,000 registered voters from Oct. 9-12. The margin of error was plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

        The Journal/NBC News poll interviewed 1,000 registered voters from Oct. 9-12. The margin of error was plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

        The poll didn’t detail reasons why respondents might or might not be interested in taking a vaccine.

        Only 10% of Black people said they would take a vaccine once one became available, compared with 20% of white people and 12% of Hispanic people, according to the survey. Thirty percent of Black people said they would not take a vaccine at all, compared with 15% of white people and 20% of Hispanic people, according to the WSJ/NBC poll.

        The poll found that 82% of registered Democrats would take a vaccine immediately or after learning more about side effects, compared with 62% of Republican voters. The poll also found that individuals with college or graduate school degrees were more likely to say they would take a vaccine.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ Online
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          jon-nyc
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          #4

          https://www.wsj.com/articles/ahead-of-covid-19-vaccine-half-of-americans-indicate-reluctance-wsj-nbc-poll-finds-11602734460

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            In other words, if some are reluctant to take the vaccine, we should not offer it?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • jon-nycJ Online
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              jon-nyc
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              #6

              We should do what we can to increase confidence in the process that Trump has already done grave damage to.

              Part of that is firing him in 2 weeks.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                You know the FDA process for medication. Do you think Biden could have gotten anything done this fast?

                And I know the approval process for testing a helluva lot better than most. The speed of approval for tests is unlike anything in my lifetime. I don't think Biden has the balls to do what Trump did to the FDA, in regards to testing.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • jon-nycJ Online
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                  jon-nyc
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                  #8

                  Really I think these state bodies don't really need to do much other than see if the process followed the FDA guidance published in June and the emergency authorization guidance published 2 weeks ago.

                  If Trump and Azar overrule that guidance, the states merely need to enforce it. That doesn't delay the process, it restores it.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    We should do what we can to increase confidence in the process that Trump has already done grave damage to.

                    Part of that is firing him in 2 weeks.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Governor Nuisance to Delay Covid Vaccine:

                    We should do what we can to increase confidence in the process that Trump has already done grave damage to.

                    Part of that is firing him in 2 weeks.

                    My trust in a vaccine is 100% independent of Trump. I’ll bite and trust your comment is intellectually honest. Now explain why trust is gravely damaged in the public.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      jon-nyc
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                      #10

                      I wrote about it in depth here.

                      https://nodebb.the-new-coffee-room.club/topic/3519/more-vaccine-drama?_=1603149277362

                      Since then he has pushed back against FDA guidance on emergency approval considerations. All with the same end in mind, his own electoral fortunes.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • MikM Away
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                        Mik
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                        Whether I take it right away depends on the technology, If it is a standard, well tested for of vaccine technology I will get it ASAP. If it's new technology which has been worked with I may wait just a bit.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                          From the same wsj piece:

                          The Journal/NBC News poll interviewed 1,000 registered voters from Oct. 9-12. The margin of error was plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

                          The Journal/NBC News poll interviewed 1,000 registered voters from Oct. 9-12. The margin of error was plus or minus 3.1 percentage points.

                          The poll didn’t detail reasons why respondents might or might not be interested in taking a vaccine.

                          Only 10% of Black people said they would take a vaccine once one became available, compared with 20% of white people and 12% of Hispanic people, according to the survey. Thirty percent of Black people said they would not take a vaccine at all, compared with 15% of white people and 20% of Hispanic people, according to the WSJ/NBC poll.

                          The poll found that 82% of registered Democrats would take a vaccine immediately or after learning more about side effects, compared with 62% of Republican voters. The poll also found that individuals with college or graduate school degrees were more likely to say they would take a vaccine.

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                          Copper
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                          #12

                          @jon-nyc said in Governor Nuisance to Delay Covid Vaccine:

                          The poll also found that individuals with college or graduate school degrees were more likely to say they would take a vaccine.

                          Because they are so much smarter or because they have been subjected to more indoctrination and are more pliant?

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                            Copper
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                            As far as when to take the vaccine is concerned, I assume the Ministry of Truth will let us know as the level of safety develops.

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                            • MikM Mik

                              Whether I take it right away depends on the technology, If it is a standard, well tested for of vaccine technology I will get it ASAP. If it's new technology which has been worked with I may wait just a bit.

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                              Aqua Letifer
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                              @Mik said in Governor Nuisance to Delay Covid Vaccine:

                              Whether I take it right away depends on the technology, If it is a standard, well tested for of vaccine technology I will get it ASAP. If it's new technology which has been worked with I may wait just a bit.

                              The crazy-long Twitter thread Bach(?) posted about vaccine technology is pretty instructive on that. I think chances are good that it won't be one of the more innovative vaccines that are the first out of the gate.

                              Please love yourself.

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                              • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                @Mik said in Governor Nuisance to Delay Covid Vaccine:

                                Whether I take it right away depends on the technology, If it is a standard, well tested for of vaccine technology I will get it ASAP. If it's new technology which has been worked with I may wait just a bit.

                                The crazy-long Twitter thread Bach(?) posted about vaccine technology is pretty instructive on that. I think chances are good that it won't be one of the more innovative vaccines that are the first out of the gate.

                                MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #15

                                @Aqua-Letifer yes, I agree.

                                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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