Inventing History
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Pretty much everybody thinks their person won the debate, and pretty much everybody thinks their person was unfairly treated by somebody or other.
Maybe the key to winning debates is to be unfairly treated.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Inventing History:
Pretty much everybody thinks their person won the debate, and pretty much everybody thinks their person was unfairly treated by somebody or other.
Maybe the key to winning debates is to be unfairly treated.
Exactly.
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I only watched a few minutes.
Ms Harris went over her time and when she was warned about it she said she was going to keep going, so the moderator shut up.
Mr Pence went over his time and the moderator must have said "thank you" at least a couple dozen times before he stopped.
In that short exchange that I watched, Mr Pence was clearly treated unfairly.
Having said that, to be fair, I realize that he is a racist white male so he deserves it.
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Again, the stopwatch don't lie.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Speaking of lies...
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/08/7-quick-takeaways-on-the-2020-vice-presidential-debate/
The first question to Pence, for instance, was that the U.S. death toll was worse than “almost” any other “wealthy” country on earth. The U.S. case fatality rate of 2.8 percent is below Italy, United Kingdom, Belgium, Sweden, Canada, France, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, and Germany, something that the media rarely mention.
Yes, the absolute number is higher, but...
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Jolly said in Inventing History:
Again, the stopwatch don't lie.
Per this analysis, Senator Harris talked for 34:19 and VP Pence talked for 33:09 (I added up the individual topic talk points. I assume this is for the whole debate, but am not sure.)
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@Jolly said in Inventing History:
The stopwatch don't lie.
I propose for the next debate:
Chess clock
Microphone mutingA question is asked, moderator gives candidate A a certain amount of time. When that time runs out, microphone is muted and clock started to the other person. If the other person does not use all there time, they have "banked" some for later.
Both candidates get equal time and cannot interrupt.
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I'll make it a lot more informative and entertaining...
Let's have Rush Limbaugh and Rachel Maddow do the next debate. Limbaugh questions Biden, Maddow does Trump.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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I'll make it a lot more informative and entertaining...
Let's have Rush Limbaugh and Rachel Maddow do the next debate. Limbaugh questions Biden, Maddow does Trump.
@Jolly said in Inventing History:
I'll make it a lot more informative and entertaining...
Let's have Rush Limbaugh and Rachel Maddow do the next debate. Limbaugh questions Biden, Maddow does Trump.
Had to look up who they were, and after reading, sounds like a really good idea!! LOL
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I'll make it a lot more informative and entertaining...
Let's have Rush Limbaugh and Rachel Maddow do the next debate. Limbaugh questions Biden, Maddow does Trump.
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Speaking of lies...
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/08/7-quick-takeaways-on-the-2020-vice-presidential-debate/
The first question to Pence, for instance, was that the U.S. death toll was worse than “almost” any other “wealthy” country on earth. The U.S. case fatality rate of 2.8 percent is below Italy, United Kingdom, Belgium, Sweden, Canada, France, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, and Germany, something that the media rarely mention.
Yes, the absolute number is higher, but...
@George-K said in Inventing History:
Speaking of lies...
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/08/7-quick-takeaways-on-the-2020-vice-presidential-debate/
The first question to Pence, for instance, was that the U.S. death toll was worse than “almost” any other “wealthy” country on earth. The U.S. case fatality rate of 2.8 percent is below Italy, United Kingdom, Belgium, Sweden, Canada, France, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, and Germany, something that the media rarely mention.
Yes, the absolute number is higher, but...
Too lazy to go look it up. Was the claim made in the debate about the number of COVID-19 deaths as a fraction of the national population or number of COVID-19 deaths as a fraction of those infected (“case fatality rate”). The Federalist article speaks only to the latter, not the former.
When people make a statement like “the US has 4% of the world’s population but 20% of the world’s COVID-19 deaths,” that’s not about “case fatality rate” that the Federalist article talks about.
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Speaking of lies...
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/08/7-quick-takeaways-on-the-2020-vice-presidential-debate/
The first question to Pence, for instance, was that the U.S. death toll was worse than “almost” any other “wealthy” country on earth. The U.S. case fatality rate of 2.8 percent is below Italy, United Kingdom, Belgium, Sweden, Canada, France, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, and Germany, something that the media rarely mention.
Yes, the absolute number is higher, but...
@George-K said in Inventing History:
Speaking of lies...
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/08/7-quick-takeaways-on-the-2020-vice-presidential-debate/
The first question to Pence, for instance, was that the U.S. death toll was worse than “almost” any other “wealthy” country on earth. The U.S. case fatality rate of 2.8 percent is below Italy, United Kingdom, Belgium, Sweden, Canada, France, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, and Germany, something that the media rarely mention.
Yes, the absolute number is higher, but...
EU and UK account for 3,874,181 cases and 191,147 deaths. That's pretty close to US numbers especially when you factor in how poorly NY reacted in February, March, and early April.
The Brad
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@George-K said in Inventing History:
Speaking of lies...
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/08/7-quick-takeaways-on-the-2020-vice-presidential-debate/
The first question to Pence, for instance, was that the U.S. death toll was worse than “almost” any other “wealthy” country on earth. The U.S. case fatality rate of 2.8 percent is below Italy, United Kingdom, Belgium, Sweden, Canada, France, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, and Germany, something that the media rarely mention.
Yes, the absolute number is higher, but...
EU and UK account for 3,874,181 cases and 191,147 deaths. That's pretty close to US numbers especially when you factor in how poorly NY reacted in February, March, and early April.
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@Jolly said in Inventing History:
The stopwatch don't lie.
I propose for the next debate:
Chess clock
Microphone mutingA question is asked, moderator gives candidate A a certain amount of time. When that time runs out, microphone is muted and clock started to the other person. If the other person does not use all there time, they have "banked" some for later.
Both candidates get equal time and cannot interrupt.
@taiwan_girl said in Inventing History:
@Jolly said in Inventing History:
The stopwatch don't lie.
I propose for the next debate:
Chess clock
It would need to be a 4D chess clock.
Obviously, the claim that they're playing 4D chess is bogus. It's drunk Fischer-random suicide chess.
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@George-K said in Inventing History:
Speaking of lies...
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/08/7-quick-takeaways-on-the-2020-vice-presidential-debate/
The first question to Pence, for instance, was that the U.S. death toll was worse than “almost” any other “wealthy” country on earth. The U.S. case fatality rate of 2.8 percent is below Italy, United Kingdom, Belgium, Sweden, Canada, France, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, and Germany, something that the media rarely mention.
Yes, the absolute number is higher, but...
EU and UK account for 3,874,181 cases and 191,147 deaths. That's pretty close to US numbers especially when you factor in how poorly NY reacted in February, March, and early April.
@LuFins-Dad said in Inventing History:
@George-K said in Inventing History:
Speaking of lies...
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/08/7-quick-takeaways-on-the-2020-vice-presidential-debate/
The first question to Pence, for instance, was that the U.S. death toll was worse than “almost” any other “wealthy” country on earth. The U.S. case fatality rate of 2.8 percent is below Italy, United Kingdom, Belgium, Sweden, Canada, France, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, and Germany, something that the media rarely mention.
Yes, the absolute number is higher, but...
EU and UK account for 3,874,181 cases and 191,147 deaths. That's pretty close to US numbers especially when you factor in how poorly NY reacted in February, March, and early April.
You're making the same mistake they did, but in the opposite direction. The EU+UK population is higher than that of the US by over 100 million.
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@LuFins-Dad said in Inventing History:
@George-K said in Inventing History:
Speaking of lies...
https://thefederalist.com/2020/10/08/7-quick-takeaways-on-the-2020-vice-presidential-debate/
The first question to Pence, for instance, was that the U.S. death toll was worse than “almost” any other “wealthy” country on earth. The U.S. case fatality rate of 2.8 percent is below Italy, United Kingdom, Belgium, Sweden, Canada, France, Netherlands, Spain, Switzerland, and Germany, something that the media rarely mention.
Yes, the absolute number is higher, but...
EU and UK account for 3,874,181 cases and 191,147 deaths. That's pretty close to US numbers especially when you factor in how poorly NY reacted in February, March, and early April.
You're making the same mistake they did, but in the opposite direction. The EU+UK population is higher than that of the US by over 100 million.
@Doctor-Phibes said in Inventing History:
You're making the same mistake they did, but in the opposite direction. The EU+UK population is higher than that of the US by over 100 million.
Yes.
So, let's look at cases per million. Of course, the US has time to surge.
Or the CFR:
Look like Great Britain or the EU were never places you wanted to be if you wanted to live.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in Inventing History:
You're making the same mistake they did, but in the opposite direction. The EU+UK population is higher than that of the US by over 100 million.
Yes.
So, let's look at cases per million. Of course, the US has time to surge.
Or the CFR:
Look like Great Britain or the EU were never places you wanted to be if you wanted to live.
@George-K said in Inventing History:
Look like Great Britain or the EU were never places you wanted to be if you wanted to live.
It depends which bit, much like the US. Germany seems to have it under control. Italy was an early disaster, like NYC. The UK made a real mess of nursing homes, and the British are doing a pretty crappy job of following instructions, not helped by government rules that don't seem to make sense, and with a number of high profile types flouting their own rules. I don't understand how closing the pubs an hour early will make anything better, and Boris' top advisor claiming he had to drive the length of the country, after testing positive, to see his parents is laughable. More laughable is the fact that the slimy twat kept his job
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@George-K said in Inventing History:
Look like Great Britain or the EU were never places you wanted to be if you wanted to live.
It depends which bit, much like the US. Germany seems to have it under control. Italy was an early disaster, like NYC. The UK made a real mess of nursing homes, and the British are doing a pretty crappy job of following instructions, not helped by government rules that don't seem to make sense, and with a number of high profile types flouting their own rules. I don't understand how closing the pubs an hour early will make anything better, and Boris' top advisor claiming he had to drive the length of the country, after testing positive, to see his parents is laughable. More laughable is the fact that the slimy twat kept his job
@Doctor-Phibes said in Inventing History:
I don't understand how closing the pubs an hour early will make anything better.
The only thing that makes sense is fewer people means less exposure potential.
I suppose you can do it by limiting the number of people or the number of hours.
