RBG has passed away

jon-nyc · wrote on 22 Sept 2020, 01:20

Credit where due.

Horace · wrote on 22 Sept 2020, 01:48

One does not vote for politicians under the presumption that they will self-restrain their legal power to do the jobs they were hired to do.

89th · 22 Sept 2020, 02:42

@LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:

Curious to see how it affects some of the other Never Trumpers. @89th does this change things at all for you?

Not really, mainly because Virginia will go for Biden regardless.

That being said, I had already factored in the fact that 1-3 SCOTUS seats were at play between now and 2024 anyway (RGB definitely, Thomas/Alito maybe), so this current vacancy was already considered.

Now, if Virginia were in play, I would consider voting for Trump because I think it's important to keep the courts as conservative as possible. Free societies naturally become liberal over time and I think conservative courts help to temper the velocity to which that happens.

Friday · 8 89th 22 Sept 2020, 02:05

@89th said

That being said, I had already factored in the fact that 1-3 SCOTUS seats were at play between now and 2024 anyway (RGB definitely, Thomas/Alito maybe), so this current vacancy was already considered.

Don't forget Bryer; he's in his 80's as well.

George K · wrote on 22 Sept 2020, 11:52

Kevin Williamson's rather, ahem, acerbic take on the Ginsburg legacy:

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-tuesday/ruth-bader-ginsburg-didnt-understand-her-job/

Ruth Bader Ginsburg did a great many interesting and impressive things in her life, but she never did the one thing she probably really should have done: run for office. Ruth Bader Ginsburg wasn’t an associate justice of the Supreme Court — not really: She was a legislator in judicial drag.

You need not take my word on this: Ask her admirers. “Ruth Bader Ginsburg had a vision for America,” Linda Hirshman argues in the Washington Post. What was her vision? “To make America fairer, to make justice bigger.” That is not a job for a judge — that is a job for a legislator. The job of making law properly belongs to — some people find this part hard to handle — lawmakers. Making law is not the job of the judge. The job of the judge is to see that the law is followed and applied in a given case. It does not matter if the law is unfair or if the law is unjust — that is not the judge’s concern. If you have a vision for America, and desire to make the law more fair or more just, then there is a place for you: Congress. That is where the laws are made.

Much more at the link.

George K · wrote on 23 Sept 2020, 15:36

George K · wrote on 23 Sept 2020, 22:52

@George-K said in RBG has passed away:

Murkowski (as commented above) says, "No."

Not so fast....

https://www.alaskapublic.org/2020/09/22/alaskas-sen-murkowski-says-she-cant-rule-out-voting-for-trumps-supreme-court-pick/

If Democrats were counting on Lisa Murkowski to vote against President Trump’s next nominee to the Supreme Court, they should think again.

Sen. Murkowski said Tuesday she could not rule out that she would vote to confirm a Trump nominee if the Judiciary Committee approves one before the November election.

“I know everybody wants to ask the question, ‘will you confirm the nominee?’” she said outside the Capitol, as her Republican colleagues were gathering for their weekly policy lunch. “We don’t have a nominee yet. You and I don’t know who that is. And so I can’t confirm whether or not I can confirm a nominee when I don’t know who the nominee is.”

“I do not support this process moving forward,” she said. “Now, having said that, this process is moving forward with or without me.”

Horace · wrote on 23 Sept 2020, 22:56

The only opportunity presented here is for posers to pose. Within the law, the politicians should feel bound to do what they were hired to do. And voting for or against a SCOTUS nominee is probably more important than upholding political norms against the vote that are found important by, coincidentally, people who disapprove of the nominee or at least the president who nominated them.

Axtremus · wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 04:18

Democrats against “court packing”: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/23/senate-hopefuls-supreme-court-expansion-420650

Jolly · 25 Sept 2020, 02:02

Aw, c'mon man!

Tell people what you really want to do...

Mik · wrote on 24 Sept 2020, 14:54

Jolly · 25 Sept 2020, 01:10

Thought the idiots, and I mean idiots in the most pejorative way imaginable, that were screaming at Trump when he dropped by the court to pay his respects, should have their mouths washed out with soap.

Only by the Grace of God and the luck to be born American, can they fling spittle-laden invectives against the leader of the country in public.

Stay classy, Demonrats.

taiwan_girl · 25 Sept 2020, 01:13

@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:

Only by the Grace of God and the luck to be born American, can they fling spittle-laden invectives against the leader of the country in public.
Stay classy, Demonrats.

Good thing President Trump never does this against people as the leader of the country. Stay classy President Trump. LOL

Jolly · 25 Sept 2020, 01:34

@taiwan_girl said in RBG has passed away:

@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:

Only by the Grace of God and the luck to be born American, can they fling spittle-laden invectives against the leader of the country in public.
Stay classy, Demonrats.

Good thing President Trump never does this against people as the leader of the country. Stay classy President Trump. LOL

There is a time and a place.

And you should have enough manners to know the difference.

taiwan_girl · 25 Sept 2020, 01:43

@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:

There is a time and a place.

I guess that is where I disagree. I am not sure there is ever a time or place to talk despairing about another person.

Jolly · wrote on 25 Sept 2020, 01:43

@taiwan_girl said in RBG has passed away:

@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:

There is a time and a place.

I guess that is where I disagree. I am not sure there is ever a time or place to talk despairing about another person.

Politics ain't beanbag.

Horace · 25 Sept 2020, 01:55

@taiwan_girl said in RBG has passed away:

@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:

There is a time and a place.

I guess that is where I disagree. I am not sure there is ever a time or place to talk despairing about another person.

I would never talk bad about you TG. You are a beautiful and intelligent woman.

taiwan_girl · H Horace 25 Sept 2020, 01:50

@Horace said in RBG has passed away:

@taiwan_girl said in RBG has passed away:

@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:

There is a time and a place.

I guess that is where I disagree. I am not sure there is ever a time or place to talk despairing about another person.

I would never talk bad about you TG. You are a beautiful and intelligent woman.