RBG has passed away
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@LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:
It’s going to be hard to get a vote in before the election. More likely to happen in Mid-November which makes things all kinds of more interesting. I find those scenarios more interesting...
I agree with Jon about the open seat helping Trump’s re-election efforts. It definitely has me rethinking my options.
LuFins, what do you mean by "rethinking my options?"
I have found that when things are complicated, like 10 layers thick, I can get to layer 3-4 by myself. So, whenever I can learn from someone else, that's helpful and gives me things to ponder.
I have also never been able to "read" people very well. I'm serious, and it's been pointed out to me over the years. I'm great at "words have meaning, so say what you mean and mean what you say!" But, when it comes out that I should "read between the lines" I have a tough time. Body language, expressions, devious people, I have to be very cautious even if I don't really understand the hidden dynamics.
Hey, just answer the damn question. I went off on my nutso weakness, what a marroon I am at times.
@Rainman I guess you would call me a Never Trumper, I likely wasn’t going to vote for him in November, and still may not. An actual open SC seat, though? Not a hypothetical seat, but a true blue vacancy? Yeah, that could tip the balance.
If he got the seat filled beforehand, it would lessen the chance of him getting my vote.
Curious to see how it affects some of the other Never Trumpers. @89th does this change things at all for you?
The Brad
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@Rainman I guess you would call me a Never Trumper, I likely wasn’t going to vote for him in November, and still may not. An actual open SC seat, though? Not a hypothetical seat, but a true blue vacancy? Yeah, that could tip the balance.
If he got the seat filled beforehand, it would lessen the chance of him getting my vote.
Curious to see how it affects some of the other Never Trumpers. @89th does this change things at all for you?
@LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:
Curious to see how it affects some of the other Never Trumpers. @89th does this change things at all for you?
Not really, mainly because Virginia will go for Biden regardless.
That being said, I had already factored in the fact that 1-3 SCOTUS seats were at play between now and 2024 anyway (RGB definitely, Thomas/Alito maybe), so this current vacancy was already considered.
Now, if Virginia were in play, I would consider voting for Trump because I think it's important to keep the courts as conservative as possible. Free societies naturally become liberal over time and I think conservative courts help to temper the velocity to which that happens.
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@LuFins-Dad said in RBG has passed away:
Curious to see how it affects some of the other Never Trumpers. @89th does this change things at all for you?
Not really, mainly because Virginia will go for Biden regardless.
That being said, I had already factored in the fact that 1-3 SCOTUS seats were at play between now and 2024 anyway (RGB definitely, Thomas/Alito maybe), so this current vacancy was already considered.
Now, if Virginia were in play, I would consider voting for Trump because I think it's important to keep the courts as conservative as possible. Free societies naturally become liberal over time and I think conservative courts help to temper the velocity to which that happens.
@89th said
That being said, I had already factored in the fact that 1-3 SCOTUS seats were at play between now and 2024 anyway (RGB definitely, Thomas/Alito maybe), so this current vacancy was already considered.
Don't forget Bryer; he's in his 80's as well.
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Kevin Williamson's rather, ahem, acerbic take on the Ginsburg legacy:
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-tuesday/ruth-bader-ginsburg-didnt-understand-her-job/
Ruth Bader Ginsburg did a great many interesting and impressive things in her life, but she never did the one thing she probably really should have done: run for office. Ruth Bader Ginsburg wasn’t an associate justice of the Supreme Court — not really: She was a legislator in judicial drag.
You need not take my word on this: Ask her admirers. “Ruth Bader Ginsburg had a vision for America,” Linda Hirshman argues in the Washington Post. What was her vision? “To make America fairer, to make justice bigger.” That is not a job for a judge — that is a job for a legislator. The job of making law properly belongs to — some people find this part hard to handle — lawmakers. Making law is not the job of the judge. The job of the judge is to see that the law is followed and applied in a given case. It does not matter if the law is unfair or if the law is unjust — that is not the judge’s concern. If you have a vision for America, and desire to make the law more fair or more just, then there is a place for you: Congress. That is where the laws are made.
Much more at the link.
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@George-K said in RBG has passed away:
Murkowski (as commented above) says, "No."
Not so fast....
If Democrats were counting on Lisa Murkowski to vote against President Trump’s next nominee to the Supreme Court, they should think again.
Sen. Murkowski said Tuesday she could not rule out that she would vote to confirm a Trump nominee if the Judiciary Committee approves one before the November election.
“I know everybody wants to ask the question, ‘will you confirm the nominee?’” she said outside the Capitol, as her Republican colleagues were gathering for their weekly policy lunch. “We don’t have a nominee yet. You and I don’t know who that is. And so I can’t confirm whether or not I can confirm a nominee when I don’t know who the nominee is.”
“I do not support this process moving forward,” she said. “Now, having said that, this process is moving forward with or without me.”
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The only opportunity presented here is for posers to pose. Within the law, the politicians should feel bound to do what they were hired to do. And voting for or against a SCOTUS nominee is probably more important than upholding political norms against the vote that are found important by, coincidentally, people who disapprove of the nominee or at least the president who nominated them.
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Democrats against “court packing”: https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/23/senate-hopefuls-supreme-court-expansion-420650
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Aw, c'mon man!
Tell people what you really want to do...
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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Thought the idiots, and I mean idiots in the most pejorative way imaginable, that were screaming at Trump when he dropped by the court to pay his respects, should have their mouths washed out with soap.
Only by the Grace of God and the luck to be born American, can they fling spittle-laden invectives against the leader of the country in public.
Stay classy, Demonrats.
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Thought the idiots, and I mean idiots in the most pejorative way imaginable, that were screaming at Trump when he dropped by the court to pay his respects, should have their mouths washed out with soap.
Only by the Grace of God and the luck to be born American, can they fling spittle-laden invectives against the leader of the country in public.
Stay classy, Demonrats.
@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:
Only by the Grace of God and the luck to be born American, can they fling spittle-laden invectives against the leader of the country in public.
Stay classy, Demonrats.Good thing President Trump never does this against people as the leader of the country. Stay classy President Trump. LOL
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@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:
Only by the Grace of God and the luck to be born American, can they fling spittle-laden invectives against the leader of the country in public.
Stay classy, Demonrats.Good thing President Trump never does this against people as the leader of the country. Stay classy President Trump. LOL
@taiwan_girl said in RBG has passed away:
@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:
Only by the Grace of God and the luck to be born American, can they fling spittle-laden invectives against the leader of the country in public.
Stay classy, Demonrats.Good thing President Trump never does this against people as the leader of the country. Stay classy President Trump. LOL
There is a time and a place.
And you should have enough manners to know the difference.
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@taiwan_girl said in RBG has passed away:
@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:
Only by the Grace of God and the luck to be born American, can they fling spittle-laden invectives against the leader of the country in public.
Stay classy, Demonrats.Good thing President Trump never does this against people as the leader of the country. Stay classy President Trump. LOL
There is a time and a place.
And you should have enough manners to know the difference.
@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:
There is a time and a place.
I guess that is where I disagree. I am not sure there is ever a time or place to talk despairing about another person.
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@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:
There is a time and a place.
I guess that is where I disagree. I am not sure there is ever a time or place to talk despairing about another person.
@taiwan_girl said in RBG has passed away:
@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:
There is a time and a place.
I guess that is where I disagree. I am not sure there is ever a time or place to talk despairing about another person.
Politics ain't beanbag.
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@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:
There is a time and a place.
I guess that is where I disagree. I am not sure there is ever a time or place to talk despairing about another person.
@taiwan_girl said in RBG has passed away:
@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:
There is a time and a place.
I guess that is where I disagree. I am not sure there is ever a time or place to talk despairing about another person.
I would never talk bad about you TG. You are a beautiful and intelligent woman.
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@taiwan_girl said in RBG has passed away:
@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:
There is a time and a place.
I guess that is where I disagree. I am not sure there is ever a time or place to talk despairing about another person.
I would never talk bad about you TG. You are a beautiful and intelligent woman.
@Horace said in RBG has passed away:
@taiwan_girl said in RBG has passed away:
@Jolly said in RBG has passed away:
There is a time and a place.
I guess that is where I disagree. I am not sure there is ever a time or place to talk despairing about another person.
I would never talk bad about you TG. You are a beautiful and intelligent woman.
