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Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯

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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

    Conversely, Kenneth Walker was licensed to carry, and a bunch of people come piling into the house, who he may or may not have known were the police. Is it particularly surprising that he fired at them?

    That's what was reported. He thought they were home invaders. No body cams on the officers; we just have their testimony saying they knocked and announced themselves, and all the neighbors saying otherwise. Which, c'mon.

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    #27

    @Aqua-Letifer said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

    That's what was reported. He thought they were home invaders. No body cams on the officers; we just have their testimony saying they knocked and announced themselves, and all the neighbors saying otherwise. Which, c'mon.

    There was one neighbor that testified they did knock and announce themselves. The grand jury did have all of the testimony from the neighbors to weigh in theiir deliberation, and until we find evidence otherwise, we have to assume they legitimately found no reason to pursue charges.

    I might add that in that neighborhood, it seems likely that most neighbors would dispute anything involving the police...

    The Brad

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      Jolly
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      Just heard an attorney and former head of the Louisville NAACP interviewed. He stated emphatically that the warrant was issued legally and that police procedure was properly followed in carrying out the warrant.

      He stated the officers returned fire when shot at. The young lady's death was a horrible tragedy, but was not intentional nor racist.I

      He was worried about mob violence and a disrespect for the rule of law.

      β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

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        Horace
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        #29

        That's good to hear.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

          That's what was reported. He thought they were home invaders. No body cams on the officers; we just have their testimony saying they knocked and announced themselves, and all the neighbors saying otherwise. Which, c'mon.

          There was one neighbor that testified they did knock and announce themselves. The grand jury did have all of the testimony from the neighbors to weigh in theiir deliberation, and until we find evidence otherwise, we have to assume they legitimately found no reason to pursue charges.

          I might add that in that neighborhood, it seems likely that most neighbors would dispute anything involving the police...

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          Aqua Letifer
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          #30

          @LuFins-Dad said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

          @Aqua-Letifer said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

          That's what was reported. He thought they were home invaders. No body cams on the officers; we just have their testimony saying they knocked and announced themselves, and all the neighbors saying otherwise. Which, c'mon.

          There was one neighbor that testified they did knock and announce themselves. The grand jury did have all of the testimony from the neighbors to weigh in theiir deliberation, and until we find evidence otherwise, we have to assume they legitimately found no reason to pursue charges.

          Fair enough.

          I might add that in that neighborhood, it seems likely that most neighbors would dispute anything involving the police...

          Yeah because police officers never corroborate each other's stories to protect themselves. Like, never.

          I think the chances are good the officers charged in a little too eagerly. I didn't say that's what happened, no one here knows that. I'm just guessing. I absolutely don't buy the racism garbage.

          Please love yourself.

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            Just heard an attorney and former head of the Louisville NAACP interviewed. He stated emphatically that the warrant was issued legally and that police procedure was properly followed in carrying out the warrant.

            He stated the officers returned fire when shot at. The young lady's death was a horrible tragedy, but was not intentional nor racist.I

            He was worried about mob violence and a disrespect for the rule of law.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            #31

            @Jolly said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

            He was worried about mob violence and a disrespect for the rule of law.

            Ya think???

            Please love yourself.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @George-K said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

              TuCa outlined the facts of the case.

              1. Upon entering the dark apartment, Taylor's boyfriend, a drug dealer (that's what the warrant was about), shot and struck a police officer.

              I don't think that's correct. From what I've read, the boyfriend who fired at the police was Kenneth Walker, the drug dealers under investigation were Jamarcus Glover and Adrian Walker (no relation). Glover was an ex-boyfriend.

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              @Doctor-Phibes said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

              @George-K said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

              TuCa outlined the facts of the case.

              1. Upon entering the dark apartment, Taylor's boyfriend, a drug dealer (that's what the warrant was about), shot and struck a police officer.

              I don't think that's correct. From what I've read, the boyfriend who fired at the police was Kenneth Walker, the drug dealers under investigation were Jamarcus Glover and Adrian Walker (no relation). Glover was an ex-boyfriend.

              Kenneth Walker had a gun and shot a cop, because there was knocking at the door.

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              • L Loki

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                @George-K said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                TuCa outlined the facts of the case.

                1. Upon entering the dark apartment, Taylor's boyfriend, a drug dealer (that's what the warrant was about), shot and struck a police officer.

                I don't think that's correct. From what I've read, the boyfriend who fired at the police was Kenneth Walker, the drug dealers under investigation were Jamarcus Glover and Adrian Walker (no relation). Glover was an ex-boyfriend.

                Kenneth Walker had a gun and shot a cop, because there was knocking at the door.

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                Aqua Letifer
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                @Loki said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                @George-K said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                TuCa outlined the facts of the case.

                1. Upon entering the dark apartment, Taylor's boyfriend, a drug dealer (that's what the warrant was about), shot and struck a police officer.

                I don't think that's correct. From what I've read, the boyfriend who fired at the police was Kenneth Walker, the drug dealers under investigation were Jamarcus Glover and Adrian Walker (no relation). Glover was an ex-boyfriend.

                Kenneth Walker had a gun and shot a cop, because there was knocking at the door.

                Obviously Loki's never lived anywhere shitty.

                Please love yourself.

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                  LuFins Dad
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                  Personally, I want to know more about why DEMOCRAT GREG FISCHER, the mayor of Louisville FOR TEN YEARS and the Louisville City Council led by DEMOCRAT David James and consisting of Jessica Green DEMOCRAT, Barbara Shanklin DEMOCRAT, Krishna Dorsey DEMOCRAT, and 16 other DEMOCRAT members vs 6 Republican, green, and independent council members have chosen to run a police department full of fascist and racist pigs headed up by DEMOCRAT AND TRUMP CRITIC Steve Conrad.

                  These officers reported to DEMOCRAT Conrad, who reported in turn to DEMOCRAT FISCHER, DEMOCRAT Cindy Fowler, DEMOCRAT Mark Fox, so many more old white DEMOCRATS.

                  The Brad

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                  • MikM Away
                    MikM Away
                    Mik
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                    Still Orange Man's fault.

                    β€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                      Personally, I want to know more about why DEMOCRAT GREG FISCHER, the mayor of Louisville FOR TEN YEARS and the Louisville City Council led by DEMOCRAT David James and consisting of Jessica Green DEMOCRAT, Barbara Shanklin DEMOCRAT, Krishna Dorsey DEMOCRAT, and 16 other DEMOCRAT members vs 6 Republican, green, and independent council members have chosen to run a police department full of fascist and racist pigs headed up by DEMOCRAT AND TRUMP CRITIC Steve Conrad.

                      These officers reported to DEMOCRAT Conrad, who reported in turn to DEMOCRAT FISCHER, DEMOCRAT Cindy Fowler, DEMOCRAT Mark Fox, so many more old white DEMOCRATS.

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                      @LuFins-Dad said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                      Personally, I want to know more about why DEMOCRAT GREG FISCHER, the mayor of Louisville FOR TEN YEARS and the Louisville City Council led by DEMOCRAT David James and consisting of Jessica Green DEMOCRAT, Barbara Shanklin DEMOCRAT, Krishna Dorsey DEMOCRAT, and 16 other DEMOCRAT members vs 6 Republican, green, and independent council members have chosen to run a police department full of fascist and racist pigs headed up by DEMOCRAT AND TRUMP CRITIC Steve Conrad.

                      These officers reported to DEMOCRAT Conrad, who reported in turn to DEMOCRAT FISCHER, DEMOCRAT Cindy Fowler, DEMOCRAT Mark Fox, so many more old white DEMOCRATS.

                      Wait but everyone I see online is saying we should β€œvote for change” so they are voting republican?

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                      • 89th8 89th

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                        Personally, I want to know more about why DEMOCRAT GREG FISCHER, the mayor of Louisville FOR TEN YEARS and the Louisville City Council led by DEMOCRAT David James and consisting of Jessica Green DEMOCRAT, Barbara Shanklin DEMOCRAT, Krishna Dorsey DEMOCRAT, and 16 other DEMOCRAT members vs 6 Republican, green, and independent council members have chosen to run a police department full of fascist and racist pigs headed up by DEMOCRAT AND TRUMP CRITIC Steve Conrad.

                        These officers reported to DEMOCRAT Conrad, who reported in turn to DEMOCRAT FISCHER, DEMOCRAT Cindy Fowler, DEMOCRAT Mark Fox, so many more old white DEMOCRATS.

                        Wait but everyone I see online is saying we should β€œvote for change” so they are voting republican?

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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        #37

                        @89th said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                        @LuFins-Dad said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                        Personally, I want to know more about why DEMOCRAT GREG FISCHER, the mayor of Louisville FOR TEN YEARS and the Louisville City Council led by DEMOCRAT David James and consisting of Jessica Green DEMOCRAT, Barbara Shanklin DEMOCRAT, Krishna Dorsey DEMOCRAT, and 16 other DEMOCRAT members vs 6 Republican, green, and independent council members have chosen to run a police department full of fascist and racist pigs headed up by DEMOCRAT AND TRUMP CRITIC Steve Conrad.

                        These officers reported to DEMOCRAT Conrad, who reported in turn to DEMOCRAT FISCHER, DEMOCRAT Cindy Fowler, DEMOCRAT Mark Fox, so many more old white DEMOCRATS.

                        Wait but everyone I see online is saying we should β€œvote for change” so they are voting republican?

                        They also don't understand that local elections always lead to more direct change.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • MikM Away
                          MikM Away
                          Mik
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                          As it should be. Local and state taxes shoud exceed federal and programs should be moved to those levels.

                          β€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            As it should be. Local and state taxes shoud exceed federal and programs should be moved to those levels.

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            @Mik said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                            As it should be. Local and state taxes shoud exceed federal and programs should be moved to those levels.

                            Been shouting this from the rooftops for years. And at a local level, your vote actually does make a difference.

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @Mik said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                              As it should be. Local and state taxes shoud exceed federal and programs should be moved to those levels.

                              Been shouting this from the rooftops for years. And at a local level, your vote actually does make a difference.

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                              @LuFins-Dad said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                              @Mik said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                              As it should be. Local and state taxes shoud exceed federal and programs should be moved to those levels.

                              Been shouting this from the rooftops for years. And at a local level, your vote actually does make a difference.

                              Agreed

                              β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

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                              • MikM Away
                                MikM Away
                                Mik
                                wrote on last edited by Mik
                                #41

                                We can't push everything down but what can be effectively should be. This is where innovation will come from.

                                β€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                  MikM Away
                                  Mik
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                                  β€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Axtremus
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                                    @Mik said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

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                                    C'mon, white people can care about black lives too. That's a virtue.

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                                      MikM Away
                                      Mik
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                                      Link to video

                                      β€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      • MikM Mik

                                        Link to video

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                                        @Mik said in Louisville is about to burn πŸ”₯:

                                        Link to video

                                        Interesting, @Mik. Do you agree with Malcolm X's assessment as articulated in the video? Which "team" are you on in his "football" metaphor?

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                                          Layers and layers of fact checkers at CNN:

                                          According to Cuomo, it was β€œunclear” if one of the cops was shot by Taylor’s boyfriend or his own officers.

                                          β€œA cop was hit at some point. Horrible. Officer Mattingly. But by whom? By Walker or friendly fire? Ballistics make it unclear,” Cuomo stated.

                                          During a press conference earlier in the day, however, Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron explicitly stated that β€œthere’s no evidence to support that Sergeant Mattingly was hit by friendly fire from other officers.”

                                          β€œIn addition to all the testimony, the ballistics report shows that the round that struck Sergeant Mattingly was fired from a nine-millimeter handgun. The LMPD officers fired 40 caliber handguns,” Cameron explained.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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