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“Strikingly, 100% of ICU patients less than 75 years old had vitamin D deficiency”

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  • ImprovisoI Offline
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    Improviso
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    #9

    BREAKING....

    CNN - "Ax recommends injecting cow milk into the blood stream to increase Vitamin D level."

    We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
    Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Don't. You're just encouraging him.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        Could it just be a coincidence due to the season?
        Northern climate, winter, staying indoors due to cold, continuing to stay indoors when not feeling well. It wouldn't be unusual for folks to be low on vitamin D in those circumstances. Talk to folks in Oregon. They have lots of problems every year due to seasonal low vitamin D.
        Correlation is high, but is there any indication of causality?

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        • MikM Mik

          Don't. You're just encouraging him.

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          Improviso
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          @Mik said in “Strikingly, 100% of ICU patients less than 75 years old had vitamin D deficiency”:

          Don't. You're just encouraging him.

          I hear there's vitamin D in fish tank cleaner. 🤓

          We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
          Yes, there are two paths you can go by, but in the long run, there's still time to change the road you're on.

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
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            #13

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • MikM Offline
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              #14

              I'm taking my supplement daily now, along with a daily multi.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                LuFins Dad
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                #15

                https://news.yahoo.com/research-links-vitamin-d-deficiency-covid-19-severity-111236604.html

                The Brad

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                  And another study on Vitamin D and may definitively prove that COVID-19 is indeed racist.

                  https://www.live5news.com/2020/05/08/sc-researchers-studying-effects-vitamin-d-coronavirus-symptoms/

                  "The latest numbers from SCDHEC show African American cases of COVID-19 make up about 44% of total cases, even though African Americans only make up about 27% of the state’s population. Research shows melanin decreases the amount of sunlight that can get in the body, and therefore affects the amount of vitamin D made inside the bodies of people who have darker skin.

                  “Vitamin D is probably the classic thing to look at for disparities,” Hollis added."

                  The Brad

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                    Horace
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                    This should strengthen the case for reparations.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • George KG Offline
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                      George K
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                      https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2020/09/03/Vitamin-D-deficiency-raises-COVID-19-infection-risk-by-77-study-finds/7001599139929/

                      Sept. 3 (UPI) -- Vitamin D deficiency increases a person's risk for catching COVID-19 by 77% compared to those with sufficient levels of the nutrient, a study published Thursday by JAMA Network Open found.

                      As many as one in four of the nearly 500 participants in the study were found to have less-than-optimal levels of vitamin D, the data showed.

                      Among those found to be lacking the key nutrient, 22% contracted COVID-19, the data showed.

                      Of the 60% of study subjects with adequate vitamin D levels, just 12% were infected, according to the researchers.

                      The study: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2770157?utm_source=For_The_Media&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=ftm_links&utm_term=090320

                      Results A total of 489 patients (mean [SD] age, 49.2 [18.4] years; 366 [75%] women; and 331 [68%] race other than White) had a vitamin D level measured in the year before COVID-19 testing. Vitamin D status before COVID-19 testing was categorized as likely deficient for 124 participants (25%), likely sufficient for 287 (59%), and uncertain for 78 (16%). Overall, 71 participants (15%) tested positive for COVID-19. In multivariate analysis, testing positive for COVID-19 was associated with increasing age up to age 50 years (relative risk, 1.06; 95% CI, 1.01-1.09; P = .02); non-White race (relative risk, 2.54; 95% CI, 1.26-5.12; P = .009), and likely deficient vitamin D status (relative risk, 1.77; 95% CI, 1.12-2.81; P = .02) compared with likely sufficient vitamin D status. Predicted COVID-19 rates in the deficient group were 21.6% (95% CI, 14.0%-29.2%) vs 12.2%(95% CI, 8.9%-15.4%) in the sufficient group.

                      Conclusions and Relevance In this single-center, retrospective cohort study, likely deficient vitamin D status was associated with increased COVID-19 risk, a finding that suggests that randomized trials may be needed to determine whether vitamin D affects COVID-19 risk.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Trump should recommend we all take Vitamin D. That ought to kill it.

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                          Copper
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                          Vitamin D for Donald

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                            LuFins Dad
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                            We don’t need no stinking vaccine!

                            The Brad

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                              LuFins Dad
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                              That article about the brakkiodarusdydrine or whatever it was brought up Vitamin D, too.

                              The Brad

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                                jon-nyc
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                                Very large n (>600k)

                                In the population of US veterans, we show that Vitamin D2 and D3 fills were associated with reductions in COVID-19 infection of 28% and 20%, respectively. Mortality within 30-days of COVID-19 infection was similarly 33% lower with Vitamin D3 and 25% lower with D2.

                                https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-24053-4

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                  One-a-Day vitamins Men's 50+ gives 88% of daily value Vitamin D

                                  One-a-Day vitamins Men's 65+ gives 150% of daily value Vitamin D

                                  I couldn't find 65+ last time, so I bought 50+, I guess I should make an effort to get the 65+

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #25

                                    What’s particularly interesting is they had lower infection rates, not just better outcomes.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                      George K
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                                      Yeah, but how many were Democrats and how many were Republicans?

                                      Fascinating.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Very large n (>600k)

                                        In the population of US veterans, we show that Vitamin D2 and D3 fills were associated with reductions in COVID-19 infection of 28% and 20%, respectively. Mortality within 30-days of COVID-19 infection was similarly 33% lower with Vitamin D3 and 25% lower with D2.

                                        https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-24053-4

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                                        @jon-nyc said in “Strikingly, 100% of ICU patients less than 75 years old had vitamin D deficiency”:

                                        Very large n (>600k)

                                        In the population of US veterans, we show that Vitamin D2 and D3 fills were associated with reductions in COVID-19 infection of 28% and 20%, respectively. Mortality within 30-days of COVID-19 infection was similarly 33% lower with Vitamin D3 and 25% lower with D2.

                                        https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-022-24053-4

                                        What came first, the chicken or the egg?

                                        Old people don't eat well and most get inadequate time out in the sun. They tend to have macrocytic anemias and Vitamin D deficiencies.

                                        They're not healthy.

                                        So...COVID kills old people that are unhealthy to start with...🤪

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          They used a one-to-one match with the control group on all kinds of demographic variables including age.

                                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                          -Cormac McCarthy

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