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What's the White House's plan, anyway?

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  • J jon-nyc
    13 Apr 2020, 22:15

    Does anyone know?

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    George K
    wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 22:17 last edited by
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    @jon-nyc I assume you're talking about opening up the economy.

    In another thread, Jolly commented that at least half a dozen governors are talking about easing restrictions.

    Whose responsibility is it? State governors or the federal government?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Jolly
      wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 22:18 last edited by
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      Currently being formulated.

      I think the state of New York is ahead of the White House.

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • G George K
        13 Apr 2020, 22:17

        @jon-nyc I assume you're talking about opening up the economy.

        In another thread, Jolly commented that at least half a dozen governors are talking about easing restrictions.

        Whose responsibility is it? State governors or the federal government?

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        Jolly
        wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 22:19 last edited by
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        @George-K said in What's the White House's plan, anyway?:

        @jon-nyc I assume you're talking about opening up the economy.

        In another thread, Jolly commented that at least half a dozen governors are talking about easing restrictions.

        Whose responsibility is it? State governors or the federal government?

        The Feds can advise. The Governors have the power, just as they have the lockdown power.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 22:20 last edited by
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          WOuldn't you have thought the CDC would have some sort of plan in existence, or at least the outline of one? I mean, not the capacity to execute it necessarily, but wouldn't you think they've 'war gamed' this stuff at some point?

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • J jon-nyc
            13 Apr 2020, 22:20

            WOuldn't you have thought the CDC would have some sort of plan in existence, or at least the outline of one? I mean, not the capacity to execute it necessarily, but wouldn't you think they've 'war gamed' this stuff at some point?

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            George K
            wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 22:23 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc good point. This should not come as a surprise.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • J jon-nyc
              13 Apr 2020, 22:20

              WOuldn't you have thought the CDC would have some sort of plan in existence, or at least the outline of one? I mean, not the capacity to execute it necessarily, but wouldn't you think they've 'war gamed' this stuff at some point?

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              Jolly
              wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 22:29 last edited by
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              @jon-nyc said in What's the White House's plan, anyway?:

              WOuldn't you have thought the CDC would have some sort of plan in existence, or at least the outline of one? I mean, not the capacity to execute it necessarily, but wouldn't you think they've 'war gamed' this stuff at some point?

              Knowing the CDC, maybe not.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Loki
                wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 22:38 last edited by
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                To be fair, we could have did ask that question three weeks ago and let’s look at where we are today versus what people where saying. We should at least do a gap analysis so we can have more confidence against the new dire predictions of not knowing what the problem is, how to mitigate and what to do.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 22:40 last edited by
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                  I don't quite understand your post.

                  'Hammer and Dance' was out maybe 2 weeks ago? Hard to tell in Covid time.

                  One presumes that was something like received wisdom in epidemiology circles, and wasn't invented on the fly.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • J jon-nyc
                    13 Apr 2020, 22:20

                    WOuldn't you have thought the CDC would have some sort of plan in existence, or at least the outline of one? I mean, not the capacity to execute it necessarily, but wouldn't you think they've 'war gamed' this stuff at some point?

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                    Loki
                    wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 22:49 last edited by
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                    The outlines of the plan are out there all over the place in pieces. I believe we will see something like an eight point plan, we’ve already started talking about elements in other threads. I suspect they won’t release until finalized which is smart.

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 23:01 last edited by Jolly
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                      I suspect China has tightened up security at their bioweapons lab and as soon as we get past this current mess, we may not have another major pandemic for several decades.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • J Jolly
                        13 Apr 2020, 22:19

                        @George-K said in What's the White House's plan, anyway?:

                        @jon-nyc I assume you're talking about opening up the economy.

                        In another thread, Jolly commented that at least half a dozen governors are talking about easing restrictions.

                        Whose responsibility is it? State governors or the federal government?

                        The Feds can advise. The Governors have the power, just as they have the lockdown power.

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 23:14 last edited by
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                        @Jolly said in What's the White House's plan, anyway?:

                        The Feds can advise. The Governors have the power, just as they have the lockdown power.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          13 Apr 2020, 22:20

                          WOuldn't you have thought the CDC would have some sort of plan in existence, or at least the outline of one? I mean, not the capacity to execute it necessarily, but wouldn't you think they've 'war gamed' this stuff at some point?

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 23:16 last edited by Mik
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                          @jon-nyc Why would you think that? The CDC didn't seem to have a plan for much of anything else.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Copper
                            wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 23:20 last edited by Copper
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                            Yes, Mr. Trump has been saying it is up to him

                            He has his emergency

                            The states have their emergencies

                            They each want their own toy

                            I'm just happy they are talking about it, that will lead to action eventually

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                              89th
                              wrote on 14 Apr 2020, 00:05 last edited by
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                              Jon, the plan? My gut is it’ll be a “we are going to follow the advice of experts and wait” delay tactic until a few states naturally ease restrictions and once that becomes palatable, Trump will endorse it and claim credit.

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                              • J jon-nyc
                                13 Apr 2020, 23:14

                                @Jolly said in What's the White House's plan, anyway?:

                                The Feds can advise. The Governors have the power, just as they have the lockdown power.

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                                Doctor Phibes
                                wrote on 14 Apr 2020, 00:11 last edited by
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                                @jon-nyc said in What's the White House's plan, anyway?:

                                @Jolly said in What's the White House's plan, anyway?:

                                The Feds can advise. The Governors have the power, just as they have the lockdown power.

                                With all due respect to President Trump, I think I'll wait and see what the MA Governor and my company management have to say.

                                I was only joking

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  13 Apr 2020, 23:14

                                  @Jolly said in What's the White House's plan, anyway?:

                                  The Feds can advise. The Governors have the power, just as they have the lockdown power.

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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on 14 Apr 2020, 00:38 last edited by Jolly
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                                  @jon-nyc said in What's the White House's plan, anyway?:

                                  @Jolly said in What's the White House's plan, anyway?:

                                  The Feds can advise. The Governors have the power, just as they have the lockdown power.

                                  Mr. Trump is wrong. He can advise, he cannot compel.

                                  Of course, he owns some mighty big sticks and carrots.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                    Mik
                                    wrote on 14 Apr 2020, 00:54 last edited by
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                                    That might have been his most boneheaded tweet yet. specially after putting a lot of responsibility on governors to get their own PPE. Very, very bad move and it will come back on him n November.

                                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on 14 Apr 2020, 01:36 last edited by
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                                      He really is his own worst enemy. His opponents would be better off gently tweaking him like this, and letting him go off on a tear and making himself look insecure, than attacking full frontal, which is what he enjoys.

                                      It's a bit like those family meals where you see if you can get certain relatives to go off an a rant by just dropping a couple of words into the conversation about national service, or The Empire or something.

                                      I was only joking

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                                      • D Doctor Phibes
                                        14 Apr 2020, 01:36

                                        He really is his own worst enemy. His opponents would be better off gently tweaking him like this, and letting him go off on a tear and making himself look insecure, than attacking full frontal, which is what he enjoys.

                                        It's a bit like those family meals where you see if you can get certain relatives to go off an a rant by just dropping a couple of words into the conversation about national service, or The Empire or something.

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                                        George K
                                        wrote on 14 Apr 2020, 01:40 last edited by
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                                        @Doctor-Phibes said in What's the White House's plan, anyway?:

                                        He really is his own worst enemy.

                                        Indeed. It takes a lot of effort to distinguish what he does from what he says. If he could just STFU....

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          13 Apr 2020, 22:15

                                          Does anyone know?

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                                          Copper
                                          wrote on 14 Apr 2020, 01:48 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in What's the White House's plan, anyway?:

                                          Does anyone know?

                                          If you are really interested in what they might be planning the Whitehouse web site still works

                                          https://www.whitehouse.gov/

                                          For more specific Corona virus stuff they will direct you here

                                          https://www.coronavirus.gov/

                                          For more tncr fodder try

                                          https://www.cnn.com/

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