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Remote stethoscope

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  • KlausK Offline
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    So all this thing does is to sometimes tell me to see a doctor? Thanks but no thanks. I’m good.

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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

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      @jon-nyc said in Remote stethoscope:

      Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

      That was, my first thought as well. Most cardiologists just get an echocardiogram if they suspect something serious (which a stethoscope may clue them in on), and actually LOOK at the heart rather than try to figure out the pathology from sounds.

      As an aside, for years, I used an esophageal stethoscope in many cases. I had a custom-made earpiece so I could listen with one ear while still hearing ambient sounds with the other. It was amazing what you could hear and how well with a stethoscope right up against the heart. Pediatric cases ALWAYS had a stethoscope taped to the chest.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

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        @jon-nyc said in Remote stethoscope:

        Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

        It is conceivable that a machine learning algorithm can deduce more from it than a human doctor.

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        • KlausK Klaus

          @jon-nyc said in Remote stethoscope:

          Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

          It is conceivable that a machine learning algorithm can deduce more from it than a human doctor.

          George KG Offline
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          George K
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          @Klaus said in Remote stethoscope:

          @jon-nyc said in Remote stethoscope:

          Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

          It is conceivable that a machine learning algorithm can deduce more from it than a human doctor.

          Really wouldn't be that hard, would it?

          Specific sounds are associated with specific health issues, particularly listening to lungs, Rales, rhonchi, wheezes all sound different and point you down one path of thinking.

          Listening to heart murmurs is the same - the onset of the murmur during the cardiac cycle, whether it gets louder, etc all are different. The murmurs of mitral insufficiency and aortic stenosis are both systolic murmurs but sound very different.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            @jon-nyc said in Remote stethoscope:

            Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

            That was, my first thought as well. Most cardiologists just get an echocardiogram if they suspect something serious (which a stethoscope may clue them in on), and actually LOOK at the heart rather than try to figure out the pathology from sounds.

            As an aside, for years, I used an esophageal stethoscope in many cases. I had a custom-made earpiece so I could listen with one ear while still hearing ambient sounds with the other. It was amazing what you could hear and how well with a stethoscope right up against the heart. Pediatric cases ALWAYS had a stethoscope taped to the chest.

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            @George-K said in Remote stethoscope:

            I used an esophageal stethoscope

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            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • KlausK Klaus

              @jon-nyc said in Remote stethoscope:

              Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

              It is conceivable that a machine learning algorithm can deduce more from it than a human doctor.

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              @Klaus said in Remote stethoscope:

              @jon-nyc said in Remote stethoscope:

              Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

              It is conceivable that a machine learning algorithm can deduce more from it than a human doctor.

              Good point. I’d imagine a lot of this will be at-home consumer devices too, in the future.

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                No competent TV doctor would work without one.

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                • KlausK Klaus

                  So all this thing does is to sometimes tell me to see a doctor? Thanks but no thanks. I’m good.

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                  @Klaus said in Remote stethoscope:

                  So all this thing does is to sometimes tell me to see a doctor? Thanks but no thanks. I’m good.

                  Yeah you live with one. What about the rest of us?

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                    Related: https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/08/05/stethoscope

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Trivia....Who wrote many of the Dr. Kikdare novels, but was not really known for that genre of books.?

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                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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