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    Axtremus
    wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 05:27 last edited by
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    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/bluetooh-stethoscope-stethome

    Recording sound from a stethoscope and transmit it over to a doctor to get a diagnosis, thus saving a doctor!s visit. While you have the recording, might as well run it through AI to also get a diagnosis. The idea seems simple enough. What I don’t get is: how do you educate the patients (of the patients’ parents/legal guardians) to place the stethoscope correctly in the first place? How sensitive is stethoscope placement for this application? What’s the consequence if the stethoscope was not placed correctly?

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 11:00 last edited by
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      Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

      Only non-witches get due process.

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        Klaus
        wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 11:04 last edited by
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        So all this thing does is to sometimes tell me to see a doctor? Thanks but no thanks. I’m good.

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        • J jon-nyc
          30 Aug 2020, 11:00

          Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

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          George K
          wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 11:50 last edited by
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          @jon-nyc said in Remote stethoscope:

          Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

          That was, my first thought as well. Most cardiologists just get an echocardiogram if they suspect something serious (which a stethoscope may clue them in on), and actually LOOK at the heart rather than try to figure out the pathology from sounds.

          As an aside, for years, I used an esophageal stethoscope in many cases. I had a custom-made earpiece so I could listen with one ear while still hearing ambient sounds with the other. It was amazing what you could hear and how well with a stethoscope right up against the heart. Pediatric cases ALWAYS had a stethoscope taped to the chest.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            30 Aug 2020, 11:00

            Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

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            Klaus
            wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 11:56 last edited by
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            @jon-nyc said in Remote stethoscope:

            Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

            It is conceivable that a machine learning algorithm can deduce more from it than a human doctor.

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            • K Klaus
              30 Aug 2020, 11:56

              @jon-nyc said in Remote stethoscope:

              Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

              It is conceivable that a machine learning algorithm can deduce more from it than a human doctor.

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              George K
              wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 12:01 last edited by
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              @Klaus said in Remote stethoscope:

              @jon-nyc said in Remote stethoscope:

              Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

              It is conceivable that a machine learning algorithm can deduce more from it than a human doctor.

              Really wouldn't be that hard, would it?

              Specific sounds are associated with specific health issues, particularly listening to lungs, Rales, rhonchi, wheezes all sound different and point you down one path of thinking.

              Listening to heart murmurs is the same - the onset of the murmur during the cardiac cycle, whether it gets louder, etc all are different. The murmurs of mitral insufficiency and aortic stenosis are both systolic murmurs but sound very different.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                30 Aug 2020, 11:50

                @jon-nyc said in Remote stethoscope:

                Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

                That was, my first thought as well. Most cardiologists just get an echocardiogram if they suspect something serious (which a stethoscope may clue them in on), and actually LOOK at the heart rather than try to figure out the pathology from sounds.

                As an aside, for years, I used an esophageal stethoscope in many cases. I had a custom-made earpiece so I could listen with one ear while still hearing ambient sounds with the other. It was amazing what you could hear and how well with a stethoscope right up against the heart. Pediatric cases ALWAYS had a stethoscope taped to the chest.

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                George K
                wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 12:02 last edited by
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                @George-K said in Remote stethoscope:

                I used an esophageal stethoscope

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                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • K Klaus
                  30 Aug 2020, 11:56

                  @jon-nyc said in Remote stethoscope:

                  Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

                  It is conceivable that a machine learning algorithm can deduce more from it than a human doctor.

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                  89th
                  wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 12:07 last edited by
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                  @Klaus said in Remote stethoscope:

                  @jon-nyc said in Remote stethoscope:

                  Plus who uses a stethoscope anymore?

                  It is conceivable that a machine learning algorithm can deduce more from it than a human doctor.

                  Good point. I’d imagine a lot of this will be at-home consumer devices too, in the future.

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                    Copper
                    wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 13:21 last edited by Copper
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                    No competent TV doctor would work without one.

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                    • K Klaus
                      30 Aug 2020, 11:04

                      So all this thing does is to sometimes tell me to see a doctor? Thanks but no thanks. I’m good.

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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on 30 Aug 2020, 14:58 last edited by
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                      @Klaus said in Remote stethoscope:

                      So all this thing does is to sometimes tell me to see a doctor? Thanks but no thanks. I’m good.

                      Yeah you live with one. What about the rest of us?

                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                        George K
                        wrote on 31 Aug 2020, 00:12 last edited by
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                        Related: https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2020/08/05/stethoscope

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 31 Aug 2020, 00:41 last edited by
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                          Trivia....Who wrote many of the Dr. Kikdare novels, but was not really known for that genre of books.?

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