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SCOTUS upholds birthright citizenship

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  • KlotK Online
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    Klot
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    @Mik Judicial principle always looks positively radiant when it reaches your preferred result by reading the oldest available sentence.

    On less convenient mornings, the same exercise becomes nine unelected warlocks improvising from vibes.

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    • MikM Offline
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      I prefer the oldest sentence to, "well, they didn't anticipate THIS so it must not mean what it says.".

      There's a way to change it but they're all too lazy and prefer to rely on dubious executive orders.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • AxtremusA Away
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        Would have been nice to get a 9-0 ruling, somewhat disappointed that it's a 6-3 (and some parts a 5-4) ruling, a step backward from the 6-2 Wong Kim Ark ruling.

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          In a sense it’s 7-2. Gorsuch dissents but specifically says visitors babies shouldn’t get citizenship though illegal aliens babies should Not sure where he finds the constitutional basis for that distinction.

          Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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          • MikM Offline
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            #6

            I suppose it would be that visitors are temporary and many (most?) illegals intend to stay, but he'd have to explain. I can see the logic but not the basis.

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              jon-nyc
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              Thomas made the oddest comment - said the ruling ‘cheapens US citizenship’ (or ‘devalues’, can’t remember which)

              Strange thing to say for a practice going on to one degree or another for centuries.

              Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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              • MikM Mik

                I suppose it would be that visitors are temporary and many (most?) illegals intend to stay, but he'd have to explain. I can see the logic but not the basis.

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                @Mik said:

                I suppose it would be that visitors are temporary and many (most?) illegals intend to stay, but he'd have to explain. I can see the logic but not the basis.

                You can make a distinction as policy but I don’t know how you find one in the 14th amendment but not the other. I suppose I could read the dissent….

                Or wait to have sarah isgur and David French talk about it tomorrow.

                Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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                • MikM Offline
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                  Maybe they're not all too lazy. I could see this one getting through.

                  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/missouri-sen-eric-schmitt-vows-constitutional-amendment-after-supreme-court-citizenship-ruling/ar-AA26T9EQ

                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                  • markM Offline
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                    What a fucking asshole. There is no "national crisis".

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                    • N Offline
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                      There are six Supreme Court justices that need to be hung by the neck until dead

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                      • N NobodySock

                        There are six Supreme Court justices that need to be hung by the neck until dead

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                        @NobodySock said:

                        There are six Supreme Court justices that need to be hung by the neck until dead

                        First a call for a military coup, and now calling for the killing of Supreme Court Justices.

                        Nice.

                        I love you long time.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                            Heh.

                            Lo, no accord shall bloom 'twixt us and that realm, save they do kneel in token of their utter, soul-deep shame! No parley shall we hold, no treaty sign, until their will is broken, and their strength doth lie as dust before our might. -DJT, 3/6/26

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