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More about vaccine acceptance

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  • KlausK Klaus

    I'd get a COVID-19 vaccine if the risk to reward ratio is low enough and the cost reasonable.

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    @Klaus said in More about vaccine acceptance:

    I'd get a COVID-19 vaccine if the risk to reward ratio is low enough and the cost reasonable.

    Risk/reward appraisal apparently contains a large tribal component these days. It must be what rushes in to fill the vacuum of facts which, if they were available, could be used to generate a robust risk/reward. But they're not as available as many people would like us to believe.

    Education is extremely important.

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      You have the right to not get a vaccine and companies and education and healthcare have the right to make the certificate of vaccination an entry requirement.

      Problem solved. No need to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

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      • MikM Mik

        I don't give a crap who else does it. I'll get it as soon as I can.

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        @Mik said in More about vaccine acceptance:

        I don't give a crap who else does it. I'll get it as soon as I can.

        Agreed. At that point, why would I care if someone doesn’t get it any more than I care if someone doesn’t wear a seatbelt in another car?

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        • 89th8 89th

          @Mik said in More about vaccine acceptance:

          I don't give a crap who else does it. I'll get it as soon as I can.

          Agreed. At that point, why would I care if someone doesn’t get it any more than I care if someone doesn’t wear a seatbelt in another car?

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          If the vaccine isn’t completely effective then it matters a lot if people choose not to get it, since they’re increasing the chance of infection for higher risk folks, as is the case with the flu vaccine.

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            If the vaccine isn’t completely effective then it matters a lot if people choose not to get it, since they’re increasing the chance of infection for higher risk folks, as is the case with the flu vaccine.

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            George K
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            @Doctor-Phibes said in More about vaccine acceptance:

            If the vaccine isn’t completely effective then it matters a lot if people choose not to get it, since they’re increasing the chance of infection for higher risk folks, as is the case with the flu vaccine.

            During flu season, people at work were required to get flu vaccine. Those who couldn't or refused, were required to wear face masks if they wanted to work. I saw several nurses wearing masks while taking care of patients during flu season.

            Simple choice: get vaccinated or protect others (which is, sort of, the same thing).

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              If we had medicare for all, would you give free healthcare to someone who refused the vaccine?

              How about if they smoked cigarettes?

              How about if they were a skydiver?

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                Well, in truth skydiving accidents probably don't have a real high healthcare cost.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  You can’t smoke and skydive. The fucking matches keep going out.

                  I was only joking

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                  • George KG George K

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in More about vaccine acceptance:

                    If the vaccine isn’t completely effective then it matters a lot if people choose not to get it, since they’re increasing the chance of infection for higher risk folks, as is the case with the flu vaccine.

                    During flu season, people at work were required to get flu vaccine. Those who couldn't or refused, were required to wear face masks if they wanted to work. I saw several nurses wearing masks while taking care of patients during flu season.

                    Simple choice: get vaccinated or protect others (which is, sort of, the same thing).

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                    @George-K said in More about vaccine acceptance:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in More about vaccine acceptance:

                    If the vaccine isn’t completely effective then it matters a lot if people choose not to get it, since they’re increasing the chance of infection for higher risk folks, as is the case with the flu vaccine.

                    During flu season, people at work were required to get flu vaccine. Those who couldn't or refused, were required to wear face masks if they wanted to work. I saw several nurses wearing masks while taking care of patients during flu season.

                    Simple choice: get vaccinated or protect others (which is, sort of, the same thing).

                    Agree.

                    @Copper said in More about vaccine acceptance:

                    If we had medicare for all, would you give free healthcare to someone who refused the vaccine?
                    How about if they smoked cigarettes?

                    My simple answer regarding smoking is that you charge them a higher rate. I think that private companies do that now.

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                    • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                      @George-K said in More about vaccine acceptance:

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in More about vaccine acceptance:

                      If the vaccine isn’t completely effective then it matters a lot if people choose not to get it, since they’re increasing the chance of infection for higher risk folks, as is the case with the flu vaccine.

                      During flu season, people at work were required to get flu vaccine. Those who couldn't or refused, were required to wear face masks if they wanted to work. I saw several nurses wearing masks while taking care of patients during flu season.

                      Simple choice: get vaccinated or protect others (which is, sort of, the same thing).

                      Agree.

                      @Copper said in More about vaccine acceptance:

                      If we had medicare for all, would you give free healthcare to someone who refused the vaccine?
                      How about if they smoked cigarettes?

                      My simple answer regarding smoking is that you charge them a higher rate. I think that private companies do that now.

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                      @taiwan_girl said in More about vaccine acceptance:

                      @Copper said in More about vaccine acceptance:

                      If we had medicare for all, would you give free healthcare to someone who refused the vaccine?
                      How about if they smoked cigarettes?

                      My simple answer regarding smoking is that you charge them a higher rate. I think that private companies do that now.

                      ObamaCare allows up to 50% surcharge on healthcare insurance premiums for smokers compared to non-smokers in the same age bracket and geographical area. Furthermore, even though smokers are charged higher premiums, they do not get any additional government subsidies to pay for those higher premiums. That said, while the "50%" surcharge is the maximum allowed by the ACA, individual states get to set lower surcharge levels, including no so charge if a state so desires.

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                        The smoking surcharge is racist

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                        • CopperC Copper

                          The smoking surcharge is racist

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                          @Copper said in More about vaccine acceptance:

                          The smoking surcharge is racist

                          From the CDC

                          "Current cigarette smoking was highest among non-Hispanic American Indians/Alaska Natives and people of multiple races and lowest among non-Hispanic Asians.

                          Nearly 23 of every 100 non-Hispanic American Indians/Alaska Natives (22.6%)
                          About 19 of every 100 non-Hispanic multiple race individuals (19.1%)
                          Nearly 15 of every 100 non-Hispanic Blacks (14.6%)
                          15 of every 100 non-Hispanic Whites (15.0%)
                          Nearly 10 of every 100 Hispanics (9.8%)
                          About 7 of every 100 non-Hispanic Asians* (7.1%)"

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            You can’t smoke and skydive. The fucking matches keep going out.

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                            @Doctor-Phibes said in More about vaccine acceptance:

                            The fucking matches keep going out.

                            Sometimes you just want a change of venue to get nasty. Matches feel that way, too, I guess.

                            Please love yourself.

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