White House UFC Cage match

[Horace]

@Wim said:

@Horace So what?

Your heroic '90s era pushback against homophobia is quaint. But if a prominent public figure and ex leader of the free world misrepresents himself, it's of note. Whether he's misrepresenting his sexual proclivities or anything else, it remains of note.

[Doctor Phibes]

At least he's not a complete fucking douchebag.

Not that there's anything wrong with that, of course.

[Renauda]

@Horace

Your heroic '90s era pushback against homophobia is quaint. But if a prominent public figure and ex leader of the free world misrepresents himself, it's of note.

Of the what world?

[Wim]

@Horace Calling me heroic is giving me too much credit, but thanks anyway

[Horace]

The real heroes are the LBGTQ+ community.

[Horace]

@Renauda said:

@Horace

Your heroic '90s era pushback against homophobia is quaint. But if a prominent public figure and ex leader of the free world misrepresents himself, it's of note.

Of the what world?

I always enclose that phrase in scare quotes in my head, but YMMV.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said:

At least he's not a complete fucking douchebag.

Better to be a douchebag than yet another heterosexual cisgender breeder. Sorry, but - those people have had their chance - and they've destroyed the entire world. It's time for change. And hope.

[Doctor Phibes]

@Horace said:

@Doctor-Phibes said:

At least he's not a complete fucking douchebag.

Better to be a douchebag than yet another heterosexual cisgender breeder. Sorry, but - those people have had their chance - and they've destroyed the entire world. It's time for change. And hope.

I remember when conservatives used to criticise Obama's narcissism. Thank God that kind of thing's being stamped out.

[jon-nyc]

Remember when he broke all presidential norms with that tan suit?

[Renauda]

@Horace said:

@Renauda said:

@Horace

Your heroic '90s era pushback against homophobia is quaint. But if a prominent public figure and ex leader of the free world misrepresents himself, it's of note.

Of the what world?

I always enclose that phrase in scare quotes in my head, but YMMV.

Indeed, in my mind it’s measured in kilomitres.

[Doctor Phibes]

@jon-nyc said:

Remember when he broke all presidential norms with that tan suit?

A low point in the history of America's gravitas.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes Narcissism is probably a career tailwind in politics. In other words, voters like it. Except voters for the other tribe, of course.

[Andrea B]

@jon-nyc said:

Bet Lindsey Graham has ringside seats.

Yeah, I'll take naked sweaty men (especially if they're ripped) over this every day of the week.

[jon-nyc]

How do you know those men aren’t sweaty? They’re certainly half naked.

[Andrea B]

@jon-nyc said:

They’re certainly half naked.

NTTAWWT.

But the only boobies on the White House lawn should be mine.

And no, you're not seeing them, despite your wishes.

[jon-nyc]

A piece by Kevin Williamson (who made his name writing for National Review and now is with The Dispatch) occasionally writes about his lower class rural (he would say white thrash) upbringing. I think he made his first appearance at TNCR with a famous piece (at the time) that criticized Vance’s book from the right, back when Vance’s book was being praised by the establishment left.

Anyway this is nominally a critique of UFC on the White House lawn but more than anything a slice of life of Williamson as an eight year old in a dysfunctional home. Worth reading for that alone.

Of Course We’re Fighting on the Lawn

[Horace]

@jon-nyc said:

A piece by Kevin Williamson (who made his name writing for National Review and now is with The Dispatch) occasionally writes about his lower class rural (he would say white thrash) upbringing. I think he made his first appearance at TNCR with a famous piece (at the time) that criticized Vance’s book from the right, back when Vance’s book was being praised by the establishment left.

Anyway this is nominally a critique of UFC on the White House lawn but more than anything a slice of life of Williamson as an eight year old in a dysfunctional home. Worth reading for that alone.

Of Course We’re Fighting on the Lawn

Stupid piece, but par for the course for this version of Kevin Williamson. I'd say AndreaB's whataboutism response is about perfect. I'll take the "cultural degradation" of a professional sporting event being hosted at the white house, over a trans pride parade. And that would be a strong majority opinion across America.

I'm sure Kevin has white trash bona fides. But a sanctioned professional sporting event that happens to be combat-oriented is not an analogy for his shithole upbringing.

[Doctor Phibes]

The last desperate thrashings of a defeated regime.

[jon-nyc]

I think anyone under like 25 would have trouble believing that one time Obama wore a tan suit and people spent a week arguing over whether or not it was demeaning to the Oval Office and they were serious about it, or at least pretended to be.

[89th]

@jon-nyc said:

I think anyone under like 25 would have trouble believing that one time Obama wore a tan suit and people spent a week arguing over whether or not it was demeaning to the Oval Office and they were serious about it, or at least pretended to be.

That's a great summary of something I've been trying to articulate for years. The number of things Trump has done that would have been (let's say in the 90's) the "political scandal/fumble of the decade!". In other words, it's like we have a decade-level liability...every week.