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Some good news (not)

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  • AxtremusA Axtremus

    It's silly to think that artificial abortions cause population decline. If you want to blame the domestic population's low reproductive rate, blame family planning in general and the domestic population's unwillingness to raise more children. Getting rid of artificial abortions won't move the needle because a parent getting a child earlier than planned will simply change family planning tactics to not have the child that would have come later. It's a zero sum game in that regard.

    Immigration is net population addition for the most part as very few domestic persons would change their family planning tactics in response to immigration.

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    @Axtremus said in Some good news (not):

    It's silly to think that artificial abortions cause population decline. If you want to blame the domestic population's low reproductive rate, blame family planning in general and the domestic population's unwillingness to raise more children. Getting rid of artificial abortions won't move the needle because a parent getting a child earlier than planned will simply change family planning tactics to not have the child that would have come later. It's a zero sum game in that regard.

    Immigration is net population addition for the most part as very few domestic persons would change their family planning tactics in response to immigration.

    So abortion is primarily after the fact birth control. Thank’s for verifying what is pro-lifers already knew that thd pochoicers have denied or obfuscated.

    The Brad

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    • W Wim

      When my parents started in 1958 they could raise 4 kids on one income. When I started in 1985 we could raise two kids on two salaries.
      In 2025 my kids can barely raise one kid on two salaries.
      And then politicians want young people to have more kids.
      Ain't gonna happen.

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      @Wim said in Some good news (not):

      When my parents started in 1958 they could raise 4 kids on one income. When I started in 1985 we could raise two kids on two salaries.
      In 2025 my kids can barely raise one kid on two salaries.
      And then politicians want young people to have more kids.
      Ain't gonna happen.

      Thank abortion and birth control.

      The Brad

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        @Wim said in Some good news (not):

        When my parents started in 1958 they could raise 4 kids on one income. When I started in 1985 we could raise two kids on two salaries.
        In 2025 my kids can barely raise one kid on two salaries.
        And then politicians want young people to have more kids.
        Ain't gonna happen.

        Thank abortion and birth control.

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        @LuFins-Dad said in Some good news (not):

        Thank abortion and birth control.

        Also known as.....

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        I was only joking

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        • AxtremusA Offline
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          https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/27/us/politics/us-birthrate-decline-women.html

          The birthdate declines most for (1) the less educated women, (2) the financially poorer women, and (3) the teenagers; especially the teenagers, their pregnancy rate dropped BIGLY. That's good , because they are the ones least prepared to be parents. Now women in their 30s and 40s are the ones with the highest birth rates. Pregnancies are higher risks for older women, but they are also the ones more ready to be parents -- financially and psychologically.

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            Related.

            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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              Long term victory by reproductivity!

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                I'd like to see what specifically parts of Asia makes up the lions share of that 49% I think we know, but seeing it on a chart drives the point home a little more.

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                  Asia has close to 60% of the world's population. If Asia has only 49% of the world's newborns, Asia is underperforming.

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                  • 89th8 Online
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                    Nigeria will be the 3rd most populated country in about 20 years. Not exactly due to immigration.

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                    • RichR Rich

                      I'd like to see what specifically parts of Asia makes up the lions share of that 49% I think we know, but seeing it on a chart drives the point home a little more.

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                      @Rich said in Some good news (not):

                      I'd like to see what specifically parts of Asia makes up the lions share of that 49% I think we know, but seeing it on a chart drives the point home a little more.

                      Screen Shot 2026-03-02 at 9.48.18 AM.png

                      Numbers are slightly different from the map, but I think general trend is correct.

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                      • 89th8 Online
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                        @taiwan_girl interesting, I wanted to take that further and do births per capita (really, births per woman.... sorry Hollywood). Some countries, like Korea, are in extra trouble... not even averaging 1 per woman.

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                        • 89th8 89th

                          @taiwan_girl interesting, I wanted to take that further and do births per capita (really, births per woman.... sorry Hollywood). Some countries, like Korea, are in extra trouble... not even averaging 1 per woman.

                          image.png

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                          @89th Yes, all of north Asia is hurting. I think that Taiwan may have the lowest current birth rate in the world.

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                            Pretty sure that title goes to the Vatican.

                            The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                              555

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                Pretty sure that title goes to the Vatican.

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                                @jon-nyc said in Some good news (not):

                                Pretty sure that title goes to the Vatican.

                                Is abortion legal there?
                                Asking for @lufins-dad a friend.

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