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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    He just as well have shot her in the back of head.

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    • RenaudaR Renauda

      He just as well have shot her in the back of head.

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      @Renauda said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

      He just as well have shot her in the back of head.

      Summary execution style, right? Yeah that’s exactly what that situation was. None of these garbage pieces of rhetoric helps. It’s just cathartic to the person saying it. Meanwhile, it just increases the temperature. But hey, elbows up.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • 89th8 89th

        Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

        And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

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        @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

        Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

        And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

        And how many times in your life has someone who is demonstrably antagonistic to you accelerated their SUV towards you such that if you don’t move exactly then, you get crushed? That’s happened to you zero times. Don’t answer please. But hey you know 10 Capitol police who committed suicide because they were employed to quell a riot. So you know. You really know.

        Education is extremely important.

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          @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

          Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

          And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

          And how many times in your life has someone who is demonstrably antagonistic to you accelerated their SUV towards you such that if you don’t move exactly then, you get crushed? That’s happened to you zero times. Don’t answer please. But hey you know 10 Capitol police who committed suicide because they were employed to quell a riot. So you know. You really know.

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          @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

          @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

          Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

          And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

          And how many times in your life has someone who is demonstrably antagonistic to you accelerated their SUV towards you such that if you don’t move exactly then, you get crushed? That’s happened to you zero times. Don’t answer please.

          Sorry, you know me. 🙂

          Zero times is correct, because if I think someone is going to potentially use deadly force with their vehicle, zero times have I decided "hey I'm still going to walk in front of it while holding my camera".

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          • 89th8 89th

            @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

            @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

            Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

            And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

            And how many times in your life has someone who is demonstrably antagonistic to you accelerated their SUV towards you such that if you don’t move exactly then, you get crushed? That’s happened to you zero times. Don’t answer please.

            Sorry, you know me. 🙂

            Zero times is correct, because if I think someone is going to potentially use deadly force with their vehicle, zero times have I decided "hey I'm still going to walk in front of it while holding my camera".

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            @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

            @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

            @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

            Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

            And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

            And how many times in your life has someone who is demonstrably antagonistic to you accelerated their SUV towards you such that if you don’t move exactly then, you get crushed? That’s happened to you zero times. Don’t answer please.

            Sorry, you know me. 🙂

            Zero times is correct, because if I think someone is going to potentially use deadly force with their vehicle, zero times have I decided "hey I'm still going to walk in front of it while holding my camera".

            It’s an interesting contrast with your weepiness about all the Capitol police suicides you were familiar with, as a result of the impossibility of living through Jan 6. As you like to note, when the political poles are reversed, attitudes change.

            What was the tally of Capitol police officers who killed themselves due to the weight of living through Jan 6 again? As I recall, you kept close count. It could be up to like a thousand by now. I wouldn’t trade a single one of those magnificent heroes for a thousand fascist ICE officers. I’ll tell you that.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              @Renauda said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

              He just as well have shot her in the back of head.

              Summary execution style, right? Yeah that’s exactly what that situation was. None of these garbage pieces of rhetoric helps. It’s just cathartic to the person saying it. Meanwhile, it just increases the temperature. But hey, elbows up.

              RenaudaR Offline
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              #133

              @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

              @Renauda said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

              He just as well have shot her in the back of head.

              Summary execution style, right? Yeah that’s exactly what that situation was. None of these garbage pieces of rhetoric helps. It’s just cathartic to the person saying it. Meanwhile, it just increases the temperature. But hey, elbows up.

              This week, you’re fuckin’ right. Elbows are up so stay out of the corners.

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                @Renauda said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                He just as well have shot her in the back of head.

                Summary execution style, right? Yeah that’s exactly what that situation was. None of these garbage pieces of rhetoric helps. It’s just cathartic to the person saying it. Meanwhile, it just increases the temperature. But hey, elbows up.

                This week, you’re fuckin’ right. Elbows are up so stay out of the corners.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                  @Horace said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                  @89th said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                  Pfft. If Renee Good was ramming her car over and over trying to break through a police line with a cop pointing a gun for a while saying if you cross this line you will get shot….then you’d have an equal analogy. But the shooting here is akin Ashley walking past a cop at the front doors of the Capitol and him shooting her from the side.

                  And yes in both cases I agree the FAFO reality played out.

                  And how many times in your life has someone who is demonstrably antagonistic to you accelerated their SUV towards you such that if you don’t move exactly then, you get crushed? That’s happened to you zero times. Don’t answer please.

                  Sorry, you know me. 🙂

                  Zero times is correct, because if I think someone is going to potentially use deadly force with their vehicle, zero times have I decided "hey I'm still going to walk in front of it while holding my camera".

                  It’s an interesting contrast with your weepiness about all the Capitol police suicides you were familiar with, as a result of the impossibility of living through Jan 6. As you like to note, when the political poles are reversed, attitudes change.

                  What was the tally of Capitol police officers who killed themselves due to the weight of living through Jan 6 again? As I recall, you kept close count. It could be up to like a thousand by now. I wouldn’t trade a single one of those magnificent heroes for a thousand fascist ICE officers. I’ll tell you that.

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                  @Horace I’m confused. Think sleep is in order.

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                    Horace I agree.
                    This woman was actively interfering with law officers activities and could arguably be said to be a danger to the public having foolishly and illegally parked her car across a public road.
                    The officers very clearly requested multiple times for her to get out of the stationary car. She then chose to purposely drive her car backwards while an officer was attempting to open the car door and then forwards towards another officer.
                    She undoubtedly weaponised the car.
                    She certainly was the cause of the incident.
                    She was not verbally protesting in a peaceful manner.

                    If I was the officer standing in front as she drove forwards I would probably also have taken a shot at the driver. Reasonable self defence.

                    However the shots he made from the side of the car surely ought to have been at the tyres. A jury ought to decide on his intent and punishment.

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                      Another one. DOnt see any details as of yet.

                      https://apnews.com/article/immigration-enforcement-minnesota-4d1499fc5962ab880f3816259e04bdbf

                      Federal immigration officers shot and killed a man Saturday in Minneapolis, drawing hundreds of protesters in a city already shaken by another fatal shooting weeks earlier.

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                        Latest video does not look good for ICE, it’s hard to tell, but it looks like one officer removes the gun from the guy’s back waistband, and I’m guessing another officer accidentally discharges, which causes all of the officers to fire.

                        Prior to the video, the man is holding his cell phone out and standing in the middle of the street as an officer is trying to get him to go onto the sidewalk, there’s a minor tussle, but eventually they start tackling the guy, someone yells out that he has a gun, and well there ya go…

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                            Jesus. A gun behind his back and there's six plus guys on him? I cannot imagine he had any chance to draw or use a weapon.

                            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                              Probably on a poster soon. He’s trying to protect to other protestors while getting maced, this is about 15 seconds before he’s killed.

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                                I am open to more evidence that he was a threat but first glance seems to be against more sloppy and deadly officer actions

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                                  Am thinking that either the deceased should not have been there in the first place or definitely not there at all with a gun or weapon of any sort. After all he knew very well that ICE are more akin to the Earps than the keystone cops.

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                                    This is the officer holding the guy’s gun as the shooting begins. Hard to imagine a cop didn’t fire the first shot.

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                                      Jesus. A gun behind his back and there's six plus guys on him? I cannot imagine he had any chance to draw or use a weapon.

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                                      @Mik said in ICE kills a US citizen in Minneapolis:

                                      Jesus. A gun behind his back and there's six plus guys on him? I cannot imagine he had any chance to draw or use a weapon.

                                      There’s video of an ice agent carrying his gun away before they shoot him. He had never drawn it.

                                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                        Wow.

                                        Weirdly not showing up here’s the url.

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                                        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                          Jesus fucking site won’t show the existing link and won’t let me post it as a link. Let me try without the https colon

                                          //x.com/david_j_bier/status/2015142955019890832?s=46

                                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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