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We need a Venezuela thread

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  • HoraceH Online
    HoraceH Online
    Horace
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    #31

    I never attribute to malice what might be explained by my own stupidity. I did misplace several million barrels of oil recently. Now I'm wondering.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • RenaudaR Offline
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      Renauda
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      #32

      This past weekend Trump lifted sanctions on potash exports from Belarus. Last week Trump announced a 10% tariff on potash imports from Canada. The US imports 70% of its potash from Saskatchewan. It will now be able to import potash heavily discounted from Belarus.

      Today Trump has claimed ownership of Venezuelan heavy oil production. Why would he continue to import tariffed heavy oil from Alberta?

      Trump has already systemically dismantled the Canadian steel and aluminum industry and the auto industry in Ontario and Quebec. He is now going after the industrial bases in Saskatchewan and as of today, Alberta.

      I attribute it to covetous malice.

      Elbows up!

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      • jon-nycJ Online
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        It occurred to me that it would be hard to get the bulk of the Venezuelan people to rally around Maduro, but this ‘our oil’ and ‘our land’ talk might just do it.

        The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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        • RenaudaR Renauda

          This past weekend Trump lifted sanctions on potash exports from Belarus. Last week Trump announced a 10% tariff on potash imports from Canada. The US imports 70% of its potash from Saskatchewan. It will now be able to import potash heavily discounted from Belarus.

          Today Trump has claimed ownership of Venezuelan heavy oil production. Why would he continue to import tariffed heavy oil from Alberta?

          Trump has already systemically dismantled the Canadian steel and aluminum industry and the auto industry in Ontario and Quebec. He is now going after the industrial bases in Saskatchewan and as of today, Alberta.

          I attribute it to covetous malice.

          AxtremusA Offline
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          #34

          @Renauda said in We need a Venezuela thread:

          Trump has already systemically dismantled the Canadian steel and aluminum industry and the auto industry in Ontario and Quebec. …

          You sure it was “systematic”?

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            It occurred to me that it would be hard to get the bulk of the Venezuelan people to rally around Maduro, but this ‘our oil’ and ‘our land’ talk might just do it.

            MikM Away
            MikM Away
            Mik
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            #35

            @jon-nyc said in We need a Venezuela thread:

            It occurred to me that it would be hard to get the bulk of the Venezuelan people to rally around Maduro, but this ‘our oil’ and ‘our land’ talk might just do it.

            Agreed. I suppose he will say that our companies built the oil infrastructure and then were nationalized, but that's a far cry from "our oil".

            "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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            • HoraceH Horace

              I never attribute to malice what might be explained by my own stupidity. I did misplace several million barrels of oil recently. Now I'm wondering.

              89th8 Online
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              @Horace said in We need a Venezuela thread:

              I never attribute to malice what might be explained by my own stupidity. I did misplace several million barrels of oil recently. Now I'm wondering.

              Did you use Amazon for delivery of it?

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              • 89th8 89th

                @Horace said in We need a Venezuela thread:

                I never attribute to malice what might be explained by my own stupidity. I did misplace several million barrels of oil recently. Now I'm wondering.

                Did you use Amazon for delivery of it?

                HoraceH Online
                HoraceH Online
                Horace
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                #37

                @89th said in We need a Venezuela thread:

                @Horace said in We need a Venezuela thread:

                I never attribute to malice what might be explained by my own stupidity. I did misplace several million barrels of oil recently. Now I'm wondering.

                Did you use Amazon for delivery of it?

                Just checked again. My bad.

                Sorry for any reputational damage my suspicions may have caused Venezuela.

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                Education is extremely important.

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                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                  @Renauda said in We need a Venezuela thread:

                  Trump has already systemically dismantled the Canadian steel and aluminum industry and the auto industry in Ontario and Quebec. …

                  You sure it was “systematic”?

                  RenaudaR Offline
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                  @Axtremus said in We need a Venezuela thread:

                  @Renauda said in We need a Venezuela thread:

                  Trump has already systemically dismantled the Canadian steel and aluminum industry and the auto industry in Ontario and Quebec. …

                  You sure it was “systematic”?

                  Come think of it, probably not as it would require focus and strategic thinking.

                  Elbows up!

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                  • jon-nycJ Online
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                    #39

                    Best comment:

                    Someone should indeed ask the president why he's actively trying to block trade and thus Make Venezuela Great Again?

                    The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                      • MikM Away
                        MikM Away
                        Mik
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                        #41

                        Jesus. He really wants to kill the base, I guess.

                        Say hello to a Democrat controlled Congress in 27.

                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          They took ‘our’ oil.

                          The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                          • HoraceH Online
                            HoraceH Online
                            Horace
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                            #43

                            So many people voted for him for the no-war thing.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              He got a taste of being Supreme Commander with Iran in the summer, and now fancies the feeling of power it brings. Besides, I am sure his good friend and neighbour in the Kremlin gave him a wink and nod to proceed as desired.

                              Elbows up!

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                              • HoraceH Horace

                                So many people voted for him for the no-war thing.

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                                @Horace said in We need a Venezuela thread:

                                So many people voted for him for the no-war thing.

                                Cannot find the post now, I thought I saw @mik wrote recently (today?) that he would still vote for Trump over Harris if the election were to take place today. 🤷

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                                • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                  @Horace said in We need a Venezuela thread:

                                  So many people voted for him for the no-war thing.

                                  Cannot find the post now, I thought I saw @mik wrote recently (today?) that he would still vote for Trump over Harris if the election were to take place today. 🤷

                                  HoraceH Online
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                                  Horace
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                                  #46

                                  @Axtremus said in We need a Venezuela thread:

                                  @Horace said in We need a Venezuela thread:

                                  So many people voted for him for the no-war thing.

                                  Cannot find the post now, I thought I saw @mik wrote recently (today?) that he would still vote for Trump over Harris if the election were to take place today. 🤷

                                  Your propensity to define people based on who they vote for or claim to accept, is gross. But certainly not unique on this board. It's part of the problem, just so you know.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                  • MikM Away
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                                    Mik
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                                    #47

                                    I still would. Harris would have been an unmitigated disaster. far too much of a lightweight for the office. Trump may be overboard in some ways but overall he's trying to get things done, most of which I agree with in principle if not in style.

                                    Neither candidate was what I would have preferred but that was the choice before us. The Rolling Stones said it best - you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you get what you need.

                                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                    • jon-nycJ Online
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                                      #48

                                      I’ve yet to see any mitigation of the disaster that is Trump. It just keeps getting worse in whole new dimensions that the first term didn’t prepare us for.

                                      The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.

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                                      • AxtremusA Offline
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                                        Take it as a data point to illustrate that some Trump voters will remain Trump voters despite disappointment on the no-war thing.

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                                        • MikM Away
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                                          Mik
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                                          Take it as a data point that some Biden voters still remained Biden voters despite his clear deterioration.

                                          Your post is meaningless.

                                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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