The Epstein File
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I think the main thing to remember is that Trump(CF) promised, indeed campaigned on the promise, that when president he would release all of the Epstein investigation files.
Did he break his word?
Did he, once in power, actively prevent the release?
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Doesn’t everyone already know he’s morally bankrupt. Not sure what the emails could have that’d change minds.
@xenon said in The Epstein File:
Doesn’t everyone already know he’s morally bankrupt. Not sure what the emails could have that’d change minds.
Yeah this isn't about morality... that was long gone when he joked about grabbing p****, making fun of disabled reporters, and telling tens of thousands of lies in his first term. I do wonder if these emails (and I guess other proof because... fake news?) will eventually be even too much for Slippery Don to get out of. Yet, I doubt it.
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His base might never learn about it.
I went to FoxNews to try to find the headline.
When I scrolled down to story 8, it was trying to implicate the media:
Story 28 - which is pages and pages of scrolling - gets you to prince andrew.
If you scroll many many more pages, past all the media gossip (any idea what Kathy Griffin paid for her third face lift? There’s a story on it) you get to number 41 which is Trump related, but doesn’t mention the hours he spent with the adolescent girl.
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Trump is not a very nice person to women. No news there. I wasn't in my much younger years either.
I still think this is a nothingburger. I don't see much evidence that Epstein was running an ongoing stable of underage women nor do I think we will ever see any list of luminaries who participated.
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It's never seemed to me that there's any there there regarding smoking guns and Trump. In fact the evidence that Trump pushed back against Epstein, at the time, is clear. The only arguments I've ever heard for why Biden's DOJ failed to act against Trump, in the presence of evidence, have been universally stupid. No offense to anybody here who may account for my exposure to such arguments, which may have been too stupid to even break water in mainstream TDS circles.
Shapiro here has a reasonable take IMO.
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There's a political event horizon some people cross where they've so normalized government corruption in their mind they can't believe that not all governments have been so corrupt and would view suggestions otherwise as 'stupid'.
Like it or not the evidence points to Garland running a very tight ship, if anything he overcompensated after the norm-breaking of the first Trump administration.
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There's a political event horizon some people cross where they've so normalized government corruption in their mind they can't believe that not all governments have been so corrupt and would view suggestions otherwise as 'stupid'.
Like it or not the evidence points to Garland running a very tight ship, if anything he overcompensated after the norm-breaking of the first Trump administration.
@jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:
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@jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:
Dayum.
:yawn:
The full context of that statement was relating to Stormy Daniels, an adult porn star that everyone is aware Trump slept with and paid off to keep quiet.
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Also Trump:
https://www.axios.com/2025/11/17/trump-house-republicans-release-the-epstein-files-vote
Trump said Sunday evening House Republicans "should vote to release the Epstein files, because we have nothing to hide, and it's time to move on from this Democrat Hoax."
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Ok so they’ve been working on them.
Honestly the biggest mystery to me of the past 6 months is why they didn’t just edit them and release what they wanted. It’s not like they have any respect for the law.
It some sense it seems too late to do it after Trump’s obvious displays of concern for what’s in them but maga is just motivated/stupid enough to not think that through.
The whole reason we call them illegal aliens is because they’re subject to our laws.
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Although now that I think about it the ‘everybody vote for it’ message could just be to prevent the embarrassment of him looking like he’s not in control.
In fact for him to say ‘no republicans vote for this’ and then 100+ do is probably worse for his self image than anything in those files.
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Ok so they’ve been working on them.
Honestly the biggest mystery to me of the past 6 months is why they didn’t just edit them and release what they wanted. It’s not like they have any respect for the law.
It some sense it seems too late to do it after Trump’s obvious displays of concern for what’s in them but maga is just motivated/stupid enough to not think that through.
@jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:
Ok so they’ve been working on them.
Honestly the biggest mystery to me of the past 6 months is why they didn’t just edit them and release what they wanted. It’s not like they have any respect for the law.
Trump personally invents his own reality by speaking out loud what he wishes to be true (as you do to a less effective extent), but his entire administration does not historically invent their reality by creating fraudulent evidence and paper trails.
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@jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:
Ok so they’ve been working on them.
Honestly the biggest mystery to me of the past 6 months is why they didn’t just edit them and release what they wanted. It’s not like they have any respect for the law.
Trump personally invents his own reality by speaking out loud what he wishes to be true (as you do to a less effective extent), but his entire administration does not historically invent their reality by creating fraudulent evidence and paper trails.
You are probably correct. The reality of the current administration is that it is too preoccupied with damage control measures such as putting out Trump’s fires rather than evidence tampering or concocting false narratives and paper trails. Besides, if there is anything that would cast Trump in a bad light in the alleged Epstein files, it would involve ill obtained money from dubious third parties rather than the corruption of underage escorts; topic of little to no interest or consequence to Trump’s base and sufficiently arcane that any fault or blame can rest solely with the dead and buried, Epstein
