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  • kluursK Offline
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    kluurs
    wrote on last edited by
    #79

    Word is the house won't be back next week - which means 1) we've set a record and 2) someone's got to blink - and it's probably going to be the Dems.

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    • MikM Offline
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      #80

      In my view Trump's got the stronger hand. Whatever legislation one wants to pass, it needs to be done on its own merits, not by blackmail.

      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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      • MikM Offline
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        #81

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        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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        • 89th8 Offline
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          89th
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          #82

          Hahaha made me chuckle

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          • jon-nycJ Offline
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            jon-nyc
            wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
            #83

            Im sure the shutdown is hard on all the government employees but it’s especially hard for men. They’re foregoing $1 for every 83c the women are foregoing.

            “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

            • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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            😊
            • MikM Offline
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              Mik
              wrote on last edited by
              #84

              Yes. So unfair.

              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
                wrote on last edited by
                #85

                According to Trump the shutdown has already been a victory for the Dems.

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                “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #86

                  Odd though that he thinks he wasn’t on the ballot.

                  “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                  • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                  • jon-nycJ Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by
                    #87

                    Schumer just did a thing. On the senate floor he offered a compromise. Reopen the government with a temporary extension of the ACA subsidies (which he describes as extending current law). Then create a bipartisan subgroup to negotiate something long term to address health care costs.

                    “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                    • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                    • MikM Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by Mik
                      #88

                      Stay the course. The additional subsidies should die. Of course the Trump tax cuts should have too.

                      "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                      • LuFins DadL Offline
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #89

                        The shutdown will be over by next Friday…

                        It’s affecting the NFL. Fans that bought tickets for the away games can’t get there, and it’s causing massive disruptions for the media and broadcast crews.

                        The Brad

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                        • HoraceH Offline
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                          #90

                          Seems obvious that widespread air travel disruptions are a hard line that politics can not cross.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            #91

                            It also seems likely, if not quite obvious, that Trump is such an outsized figure in all political happenings, that he’ll mostly get blamed for it. regardless of what a more nuanced take might be.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • MikM Offline
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                              wrote last edited by Mik
                              #92

                              One side wants to open the government. the other side is holding their breath until they get what they want, contrary to what they voted for in establishing an expiration for the additional subsidies.

                              Coincidentally there was a piece on COVID fraud being prosecuted on Full Measure this morning. One Minnesota group scammed 250 million. We really need to quit paying for pandemic related stuff.

                              "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                #93

                                End in sight?

                                “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                                • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                                • MikM Offline
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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #94

                                  Let us hope.

                                  "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                  • MikM Offline
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                                    Mik
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #95

                                    Details

                                    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/us-senate-advances-bill-to-end-federal-shutdown/ar-AA1Q8zJV

                                    "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                      jon-nyc
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #96

                                      Watch my flight get cancelled tomorrow anyway. lol

                                      “In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once.”

                                      • Former Speaker of the House John Boehner
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                                      • MikM Offline
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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #97

                                        Quite possible. this will take a few days to unwind.

                                        "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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                                        • MikM Offline
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                                          #98

                                          The senators who voted for the deal are a surprise. They took a deal that was offered a month ago and put the US through this wholly unnecessary trauma for no good end.

                                          https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/a-very-bad-night-democrats-face-blowback-from-their-own-party-over-shutdown-deal/ar-AA1QaFLq

                                          "You cannot subsidize irresponsibility and expect people to become more responsible." — Thomas Sowell

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