We need a Venezuela thread
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What do you think is going on?
We have a non-trivial military buildup in the Caribbean, Trump admitting CIA is active in Venezuela, and of course the periodic destruction of commercial boats off the coast of Venezuela that may or may not be carrying drugs to our shores.
And just today, the head of Southern Command announced his abrupt departure.
What gives?
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I could tell you, but I'd have to kill you.
(Obviously, I'm exaggerating here. I wouldn't actually kill you. My people would do it.)
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What's the theory here, that the Trump admin is blowing up random boats for the spectacle and marketing of it?
Under the obviously fanciful and completely impossible scenario that they had compelling evidence that it was a drug boat, is there any chance that the next most reasonable move after scooping up survivors, was to ship them back to their home country?
Just an exercise in steel manning - I will stipulate for the sake of this discussion that everything the Trump administration does is random, evil, and stupid.
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The theory, which has no intelligent detractors, is that the administration’s position that anyone in these boats is an ‘unlawful combatant’, would not survive contact with a court of law.
If you don't take it, it can only good happen.
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The theory, which has no intelligent detractors, is that the administration’s position that anyone in these boats is an ‘unlawful combatant’, would not survive contact with a court of law.
@jon-nyc said in We need a Venezuela thread:
The theory, which has no intelligent detractors, is that the administration’s position that anyone in these boats is an ‘unlawful combatant’, would not survive contact with a court of law.
That's not the theory I asked for.
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It's not reasonable to believe the strikes would be ordered without sufficient evidence of drug activity. It just isn't. Whether that is deemed legal is a murkier question entirely, but one must stay aligned with one's tribe, right?
As to repatriating them, I think it better to send them home and spread the word that the easy money train has gone off the tracks.
"The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil
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I have no idea but was charitably granting that their stated reason is the actual reason. I can’t be sure though. There seems to be more going on between the US and Venezuela than meets the eye, hence the thread.
If you don't take it, it can only good happen.
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It's not reasonable to believe the strikes would be ordered without sufficient evidence of drug activity. It just isn't. Whether that is deemed legal is a murkier question entirely, but one must stay aligned with one's tribe, right?
As to repatriating them, I think it better to send them home and spread the word that the easy money train has gone off the tracks.
@Mik said in We need a Venezuela thread:
It's not reasonable to believe the strikes would be ordered without sufficient evidence of drug activity. It just isn't. Whether that is deemed legal is a murkier question entirely, but one must stay aligned with one's tribe, right?
As to repatriating them, I think it better to send them home and spread the word that the easy money train has gone off the tracks.
Seems reasonable. The message is sent regardless of what happens to the survivors.
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I have no idea but was charitably granting that their stated reason is the actual reason. I can’t be sure though. There seems to be more going on between the US and Venezuela than meets the eye, hence the thread.
@jon-nyc said in We need a Venezuela thread:
I have no idea but was charitably granting that their stated reason is the actual reason. I can’t be sure though. There seems to be more going on between the US and Venezuela than meets the eye, hence the thread.
I think a government can act on intelligence in international drug trafficking matters, that they don't want to process through domestic courts of law, when there's little to nothing to be gained by doing so.
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The theory, which has no intelligent detractors, is that the administration’s position that anyone in these boats is an ‘unlawful combatant’, would not survive contact with a court of law.
@jon-nyc said in We need a Venezuela thread:
The theory, which has no intelligent detractors, is that the administration’s position that anyone in these boats is an ‘unlawful combatant’, would not survive contact with a court of law.
I don't think survival is the point, amirite
Honestly I'm still surprised Trump didn't win the Nobel Peace Prize.
