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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

    @jon-nyc said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

    I wish it were faceless randos on the right with these reactions.

    How do they not see the irony of it?

    Did you watch the show? He talks about fighting them in the courts, fighting them in the media, and fighting them in the court of public opinion. To openly stand up for your various positions.

    Nowhere in there is he talking about going to their homes, harassing people at restaurants, rioting, etc….

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    @LuFins-Dad

    It’s the collective demonization. I know everyone does it but it seems like it isn’t the time. Because you’re literally engaging in what you’re accusing the other side of having done. Hence the irony point.

    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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    • MikM Away
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      Mik
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      It's never the time. What gets me is the number of people on both sides who simply parrot the party line without having examined it critically, without any true conviction backing up their position. I have a family member who does it a lot and I have Kirked them on several subjects. They inevitably get flustered and try to move the goalposts or explain away why what they said didn't really mean what they said.

      "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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      • MikM Mik

        It's never the time. What gets me is the number of people on both sides who simply parrot the party line without having examined it critically, without any true conviction backing up their position. I have a family member who does it a lot and I have Kirked them on several subjects. They inevitably get flustered and try to move the goalposts or explain away why what they said didn't really mean what they said.

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        @Mik agree

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        • MikM Away
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          Mik
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          I don't care if someone comes to a different conclusion than I do, just that they have some reasoning behind it other than 'it feels right'.

          "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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          • MikM Away
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            "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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            • MikM Mik

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              @Mik said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

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              I don’t really have an issue with her statement. I mean, I disagree with her, but she’s not coming through as celebrating.

              The Brad

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                jon-nyc
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                #75

                I was about to say the same thing. She’s criticizing selective outrage.

                Still in poor taste but grave dancing it isn’t.

                And not worth trying to get her fired over.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                  @LuFins-Dad

                  It’s the collective demonization. I know everyone does it but it seems like it isn’t the time. Because you’re literally engaging in what you’re accusing the other side of having done. Hence the irony point.

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                  @jon-nyc said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                  @LuFins-Dad

                  It’s the collective demonization. I know everyone does it but it seems like it isn’t the time. Because you’re literally engaging in what you’re accusing the other side of having done. Hence the irony point.

                  I get that, but in this case, it does need to be addressed that as a whole, the Democrat party has been very permissive of the escalating violence from their fringes. The lack of any sort of repercussions for Antifa, BLM, the countless riots, etc over the last 15 years opens the door to this kind of shit. These kids have been taught that there are no repercussions for their behavior in the political realm, and in some cases they will even be celebrated. And this is creeping up into more of the party mainstream.

                  “Mostly peaceful”, no convictions or jail time for dudes that literally took over a major part of an American city, this whole thing of turning fuckheads life George Ferguson and that Mangione kid into pop culture heroes… This is what you get.

                  Yeah, the other side has their own problems, but on balance…

                  The Brad

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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    I was about to say the same thing. She’s criticizing selective outrage.

                    Still in poor taste but grave dancing it isn’t.

                    And not worth trying to get her fired over.

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                    @jon-nyc said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                    I was about to say the same thing. She’s criticizing selective outrage.

                    Still in poor taste but grave dancing it isn’t.

                    And not worth trying to get her fired over.

                    That’s something that I’ve not been pleased with the last few days. All of these accounts that make their money by stoking outrage going after each and every person that’s made a dumbass post. There’s a fine line between reasonable consequences and a whole new era of cancel culture.

                    The Brad

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                      Perhaps your President will intervene in some way for the guilty man, the way he did for his supporters who caused five deaths while rioting and looting your Capitol Building?

                      Seriously, your country which I admire in so very many ways, needs to get its act together, big time, and soon.

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                        You can keep repeating it as much as you want, it makes it no more true.

                        The Brad

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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          A pretty big drop to the ground. "Lucky" for him he did not break anything. Thought of the JW Booth after he shot President Lincoln.

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                          @taiwan_girl said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                          A pretty big drop to the ground. "Lucky" for him he did not break anything. Thought of the JW Booth after he shot President Lincoln.

                          Ha! I had the same thought, kudos for knowing about the Booth injury after he shot Lincoln!

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                            Read the thread.

                            The Brad

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                              Don't have twitter, but that's ok. No thread, no comments... my superior life is calmer 😄

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                                Perhaps your President will intervene in some way for the guilty man, the way he did for his supporters who caused five deaths while rioting and looting your Capitol Building?

                                Seriously, your country which I admire in so very many ways, needs to get its act together, big time, and soon.

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                                @AndyD said in Charlie Kirk Shot:

                                Seriously, your country which I admire in so very many ways, needs to get its act together, big time, and soon.

                                I am hopeful even in 2028 (Vance vs Newsom?) that we will at least be on a path towards a semblance of truth, integrity, and respect. Perhaps calmer politics, too. Either way the topic soon will be the looming national debt topic that will require very hard and difficult decisions that'll impact all Americans.

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                                • MikM Away
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                                  Which is exactly why I don't want Newsom. He's the epitome of what has gotten us to this point.

                                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                    jon-nyc
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                                    He is the founder and CEO of The Federalist.

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                                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      When he says half the country are terrorists who shouldn’t be tolerated and has multiple posts quoting Old Testament shit about vengeance he probably really means it’s time to write sternly worded letters to the editor.

                                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      • MikM Away
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                                        Part of the problem, not the solution. While there is a small kernel of truth in what he says, his approach to it can only culminate in one side killing the other off. Hardly an optimum resolution.

                                        "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                          Tyler Robinson.

                                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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