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  • markM Offline
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    I need a new set of tires on two vehicles. Usually don't even consider GoodYear tires. I think I will buy two sets of GoodYear tires now.

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      Both Goodyear and Trump made fools of themselves.

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      • 89th8 Offline
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        On the plus side, this is the first time 2020 has been associated with the term "good year".

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        • KlausK Klaus

          Both Goodyear and Trump made fools of themselves.

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          @Klaus said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

          Both Goodyear and Trump made fools of themselves.

          It's a win-win!

          I was only joking

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            #9

            (Trigger warning: mean things are said about AAPL)

            https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-long-list-of-things-president-trump-wants-to-boycott-from-oreos-to-goodyear-tires-and-apple-products

            Only non-witches get due process.

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            • 89th8 89th

              On the plus side, this is the first time 2020 has been associated with the term "good year".

              AxtremusA Away
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              Axtremus
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              @89th said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

              On the plus side, this is the first time 2020 has been associated with the term "good year".

              When I was drafting the opening post, it was very tempting to leave the thread title at only “Trump cancels Goodyear”.

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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                (Trigger warning: mean things are said about AAPL)

                https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-long-list-of-things-president-trump-wants-to-boycott-from-oreos-to-goodyear-tires-and-apple-products

                AxtremusA Away
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                Axtremus
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                @jon-nyc said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-long-list-of-things-president-trump-wants-to-boycott-from-oreos-to-goodyear-tires-and-apple-products

                Wow, Trump has been trailblazing cancel culture all along!

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                • markM mark

                  I need a new set of tires on two vehicles. Usually don't even consider GoodYear tires. I think I will buy two sets of GoodYear tires now.

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  @mark said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                  I need a new set of tires on two vehicles. Usually don't even consider GoodYear tires. I think I will buy two sets of GoodYear tires now.

                  I suggest buying the tires you like, then contributing to the Biden campaign if you want to send an F U to Trump.

                  I must say, you've come a long way since those simpler days when half your posts were railing against income taxes. Now the only thing you rail against is the politician who lowered them.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Blimp is a British cartoon character by cartoonist David Low, first drawn for Lord Beaverbrook's London Evening Standard in April 1934. Blimp is pompous, irascible and jingoistic.

                    I was only joking

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                      You know, Trump may pop off and say things like this on an irregular basis. It's one of the maddening aspects of Donald Trump. What the TDS crowd usually fails to note, is that most often there is an actual serious issue underlying Trump's pique.

                      In this case, it's not just the MAGA attire, it's the simple fact that Goodyear has become political and woke concerning their employees, pushing the politics and rights of one group of employees ahead of the others.

                      Many won't see this. They'll just take umbrage against the tweet and never think about the underlying issue. Apparently, a symptom of TDS is mental constipation. Although, maybe it's the other way around.😊

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          I don't expect to see in my lifetime a more well defined group-think imbecility than our current view of "all lives matter" or "blue lives matter" as evil notions. But you can count on TDS folk to consider both of those ideas as ambiguous statements at best, not to be trusted.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            You know, Trump may pop off and say things like this on an irregular basis. It's one of the maddening aspects of Donald Trump. What the TDS crowd usually fails to note, is that most often there is an actual serious issue underlying Trump's pique.

                            In this case, it's not just the MAGA attire, it's the simple fact that Goodyear has become political and woke concerning their employees, pushing the politics and rights of one group of employees ahead of the others.

                            Many won't see this. They'll just take umbrage against the tweet and never think about the underlying issue. Apparently, a symptom of TDS is mental constipation. Although, maybe it's the other way around.😊

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                            @Jolly said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                            In this case, it's not just the MAGA attire, it's the simple fact that Goodyear has become political and woke concerning their employees, pushing the politics and rights of one group of employees ahead of the others.

                            I agree with that, but there would be much better ways to draw attention to the problematic aspects of "woke" company policies than Trump's clumsy and impulsive tweets.

                            The real problem is that Trump is just as much a proponent of tribalism as those who push those "woke" company policies. He isn't opposed to those policies out of concern for some greater good. He is opposed to it because these are policies directed against his tribe and for the "enemy" tribe.

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                            • 89th8 89th

                              On the plus side, this is the first time 2020 has been associated with the term "good year".

                              MikM Away
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                              @89th said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                              On the plus side, this is the first time 2020 has been associated with the term "good year".

                              POTD

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              • KlausK Klaus

                                @Jolly said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                In this case, it's not just the MAGA attire, it's the simple fact that Goodyear has become political and woke concerning their employees, pushing the politics and rights of one group of employees ahead of the others.

                                I agree with that, but there would be much better ways to draw attention to the problematic aspects of "woke" company policies than Trump's clumsy and impulsive tweets.

                                The real problem is that Trump is just as much a proponent of tribalism as those who push those "woke" company policies. He isn't opposed to those policies out of concern for some greater good. He is opposed to it because these are policies directed against his tribe and for the "enemy" tribe.

                                HoraceH Offline
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                                @Klaus said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                @Jolly said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                In this case, it's not just the MAGA attire, it's the simple fact that Goodyear has become political and woke concerning their employees, pushing the politics and rights of one group of employees ahead of the others.

                                I agree with that, but there would be much better ways to draw attention to the problematic aspects of "woke" company policies than Trump's clumsy and impulsive tweets.

                                We wouldn't be talking about this instance of woke company policies if any of those "much better ways" had been used.

                                The real problem is that Trump is just as much a proponent of tribalism as those who push those "woke" company policies. He isn't opposed to those policies out of concern for some greater good. He is opposed to it because these are policies directed against his tribe and for the "enemy" tribe.

                                I believe he's opposed to wokeness and political correctness in principle.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @Klaus said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                  @Jolly said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                  In this case, it's not just the MAGA attire, it's the simple fact that Goodyear has become political and woke concerning their employees, pushing the politics and rights of one group of employees ahead of the others.

                                  I agree with that, but there would be much better ways to draw attention to the problematic aspects of "woke" company policies than Trump's clumsy and impulsive tweets.

                                  We wouldn't be talking about this instance of woke company policies if any of those "much better ways" had been used.

                                  The real problem is that Trump is just as much a proponent of tribalism as those who push those "woke" company policies. He isn't opposed to those policies out of concern for some greater good. He is opposed to it because these are policies directed against his tribe and for the "enemy" tribe.

                                  I believe he's opposed to wokeness and political correctness in principle.

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                                  @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                  We wouldn't be talking about this instance of woke company policies if any of those "much better ways" had been used.

                                  Here are a few things he could have done instead.

                                  • give a passionate speech about the value and lived culture of freedom of speech, equality before the law, individualism instead of identity politics
                                  • set in motion legislation that forbids companies to force employees to comply with particular political points of view
                                  • set in motion legislation to "blacklist" certain companies such that they cannot get government contracts
                                  • when citing example cases, make sure to use those where there is no potential conflict of interest, i.e., those where he isn't directly affected. In general, make it blatantly obvious that the issue is not "they attacked me, so I attack them" but rather a matter of defending the values upon which the US is built.

                                  Instead he has chosen to make it look as yet another case of acting like the bully at school. How utterly embarrasing to trash-talk about the quality of Goodyear tires. They haven't suddenly become better or worse because of this. We all know that if Goodyear had done something "for him", he'd advertise those same tires as the best tires ever. Trump's world consists of people who support and (more importantly) praise him, and those who do not. There are no principles or values or political philosophies.

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                                  • HoraceH Horace

                                    @mark said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                    I need a new set of tires on two vehicles. Usually don't even consider GoodYear tires. I think I will buy two sets of GoodYear tires now.

                                    I suggest buying the tires you like, then contributing to the Biden campaign if you want to send an F U to Trump.

                                    I must say, you've come a long way since those simpler days when half your posts were railing against income taxes. Now the only thing you rail against is the politician who lowered them.

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                                    @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                    @mark said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                    I need a new set of tires on two vehicles. Usually don't even consider GoodYear tires. I think I will buy two sets of GoodYear tires now.

                                    I suggest buying the tires you like, then contributing to the Biden campaign if you want to send an F U to Trump.

                                    I must say, you've come a long way since those simpler days when half your posts were railing against income taxes. Now the only thing you rail against is the politician who lowered them.

                                    So true!

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                                    • KlausK Klaus

                                      @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                      We wouldn't be talking about this instance of woke company policies if any of those "much better ways" had been used.

                                      Here are a few things he could have done instead.

                                      • give a passionate speech about the value and lived culture of freedom of speech, equality before the law, individualism instead of identity politics
                                      • set in motion legislation that forbids companies to force employees to comply with particular political points of view
                                      • set in motion legislation to "blacklist" certain companies such that they cannot get government contracts
                                      • when citing example cases, make sure to use those where there is no potential conflict of interest, i.e., those where he isn't directly affected. In general, make it blatantly obvious that the issue is not "they attacked me, so I attack them" but rather a matter of defending the values upon which the US is built.

                                      Instead he has chosen to make it look as yet another case of acting like the bully at school. How utterly embarrasing to trash-talk about the quality of Goodyear tires. They haven't suddenly become better or worse because of this. We all know that if Goodyear had done something "for him", he'd advertise those same tires as the best tires ever. Trump's world consists of people who support and (more importantly) praise him, and those who do not. There are no principles or values or political philosophies.

                                      HoraceH Offline
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                                      @Klaus said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                      @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                      We wouldn't be talking about this instance of woke company policies if any of those "much better ways" had been used.

                                      Here are a few things he could have done instead.

                                      • give a passionate speech about the value and lived culture of freedom of speech, equality before the law, individualism instead of identity politics
                                      • set in motion legislation that forbids companies to force employees to comply with particular political points of view
                                      • set in motion legislation to "blacklist" certain companies such that they cannot get government contracts
                                      • when citing example cases, make sure to use those where there is no potential conflict of interest, i.e., those where he isn't directly affected. In general, make it blatantly obvious that the issue is not "they attacked me, so I attack them" but rather a matter of defending the values upon which the US is built.

                                      Instead he has chosen to make it look as yet another case of acting like the bully at school. How utterly embarrasing to trash-talk about the quality of Goodyear tires. They haven't suddenly become better or worse because of this. We all know that if Goodyear had done something "for him", he'd advertise those same tires as the best tires ever. Trump's world consists of people who support and (more importantly) praise him, and those who do not. There are no principles or values or political philosophies.

                                      Yes he could have acted in a way I would have liked more, and I like all your suggestions more than what he did. However I'll take his response over what a Democrat would do about weaponized wokeness in the workplace, which is to encourage it.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • HoraceH Horace

                                        @Klaus said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                        @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                        We wouldn't be talking about this instance of woke company policies if any of those "much better ways" had been used.

                                        Here are a few things he could have done instead.

                                        • give a passionate speech about the value and lived culture of freedom of speech, equality before the law, individualism instead of identity politics
                                        • set in motion legislation that forbids companies to force employees to comply with particular political points of view
                                        • set in motion legislation to "blacklist" certain companies such that they cannot get government contracts
                                        • when citing example cases, make sure to use those where there is no potential conflict of interest, i.e., those where he isn't directly affected. In general, make it blatantly obvious that the issue is not "they attacked me, so I attack them" but rather a matter of defending the values upon which the US is built.

                                        Instead he has chosen to make it look as yet another case of acting like the bully at school. How utterly embarrasing to trash-talk about the quality of Goodyear tires. They haven't suddenly become better or worse because of this. We all know that if Goodyear had done something "for him", he'd advertise those same tires as the best tires ever. Trump's world consists of people who support and (more importantly) praise him, and those who do not. There are no principles or values or political philosophies.

                                        Yes he could have acted in a way I would have liked more, and I like all your suggestions more than what he did. However I'll take his response over what a Democrat would do about weaponized wokeness in the workplace, which is to encourage it.

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                                        @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                        @Klaus said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                        @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                        We wouldn't be talking about this instance of woke company policies if any of those "much better ways" had been used.

                                        Here are a few things he could have done instead.

                                        • give a passionate speech about the value and lived culture of freedom of speech, equality before the law, individualism instead of identity politics
                                        • set in motion legislation that forbids companies to force employees to comply with particular political points of view
                                        • set in motion legislation to "blacklist" certain companies such that they cannot get government contracts
                                        • when citing example cases, make sure to use those where there is no potential conflict of interest, i.e., those where he isn't directly affected. In general, make it blatantly obvious that the issue is not "they attacked me, so I attack them" but rather a matter of defending the values upon which the US is built.

                                        Instead he has chosen to make it look as yet another case of acting like the bully at school. How utterly embarrasing to trash-talk about the quality of Goodyear tires. They haven't suddenly become better or worse because of this. We all know that if Goodyear had done something "for him", he'd advertise those same tires as the best tires ever. Trump's world consists of people who support and (more importantly) praise him, and those who do not. There are no principles or values or political philosophies.

                                        Yes he could have acted in a way I would have liked more, and I like all your suggestions more than what he did. However I'll take his response over what a Democrat would do about weaponized wokeness in the workplace, which is to encourage it.

                                        Can I get an Amen!

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • HoraceH Horace

                                          @Klaus said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                          @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                          We wouldn't be talking about this instance of woke company policies if any of those "much better ways" had been used.

                                          Here are a few things he could have done instead.

                                          • give a passionate speech about the value and lived culture of freedom of speech, equality before the law, individualism instead of identity politics
                                          • set in motion legislation that forbids companies to force employees to comply with particular political points of view
                                          • set in motion legislation to "blacklist" certain companies such that they cannot get government contracts
                                          • when citing example cases, make sure to use those where there is no potential conflict of interest, i.e., those where he isn't directly affected. In general, make it blatantly obvious that the issue is not "they attacked me, so I attack them" but rather a matter of defending the values upon which the US is built.

                                          Instead he has chosen to make it look as yet another case of acting like the bully at school. How utterly embarrasing to trash-talk about the quality of Goodyear tires. They haven't suddenly become better or worse because of this. We all know that if Goodyear had done something "for him", he'd advertise those same tires as the best tires ever. Trump's world consists of people who support and (more importantly) praise him, and those who do not. There are no principles or values or political philosophies.

                                          Yes he could have acted in a way I would have liked more, and I like all your suggestions more than what he did. However I'll take his response over what a Democrat would do about weaponized wokeness in the workplace, which is to encourage it.

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                                          @Horace said in Trump cancels Goodyear, to change tires on the Beast:

                                          Yes he could have acted in a way I would have liked more, and I like all your suggestions more than what he did. However I'll take his response over what a Democrat would do about weaponized wokeness in the workplace, which is to encourage it.

                                          Fair enough, but I think the point you are missing is that Trump's behavior is harmful in other regards completely separate from the "woke companies" issue, and there is no indication that Biden, say, would do a similar kind of damage. I'm talking about political culture itself, of course: the qualities we associate with political leadership in a constitutional democracy, as opposed to the political leadership of a tribalistic despot.

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