Fuck coding

[Mik]

I'm still convinced that a human intervention will be required for well-functioning development. I remember back in the 80's we had code generators. Their stuff was utter crap, and totally unreadable. The trick will be in design, as it always has been.

[Horace]

Any job that involves interacting with objects rather than people is on the chopping block. Maybe not in our lifetimes. The jobs that involve talking to people are also going to get hit with substantial splash damage, as most of the talking jobs involve talking about ways to direct and organize humans.

[89th]

I just saw some window washers, their jobs are safe for now.

[Axtremus]

@89th said in Fuck coding:

I just saw some window washers, their jobs are safe for now.

Link to video

[jon-nyc]

[Mik]

An offer he couldn’t refuse

[Doctor Phibes]

This isn't really going to succeed until they rename it the "hyperintelligence" group.

Incidentally, I Googled 'AI models'. Holy shit, some of them are really lifelike.

[jon-nyc]

[Axtremus]

About "50% from China" ... even among those labeled "American," many of them have Chinese-sounding names.
A little surprised that there aren't more Indians (of South-Asian descent).

Not sure what "L8+ Level" means, maybe a reference to Meta's pay scale.

[89th]

I was wondering what MTS was… just means Member of Technical Staff at the company, such as OpenAI.

[Axtremus]

Some companies throw around the title "Engineer" rather casually (e.g., "Software Engineer"). Some other companies are more careful with the title, reserving the "Engineer" title only for those who are state-licensed "Professional Engineers" (PE), and use some other title like "Member of the Technical Staff" (MTS) for those who are not state-licensed PE.

[jon-nyc]

I’ve never seen the latter except in civil engineering. State licensing was seen as totally unnecessary when I graduated BSEE in 1990.

I remember my grandfather (BSME from MIT class of ‘28) implored my mother to make me take the exam. He didn’t realize how irrelevant it was in the EE space.

[jon-nyc]

250MM package over four years for this 24 year old.

https://nypost.com/2025/08/01/business/meta-pays-250m-to-lure-24-year-old-ai-whiz-kid-we-have-reached-the-climax-of-revenge-of-the-nerds/

[Axtremus]

Still some distance away from top athletes (e.g., Ronaldo, Messi) as far as "individual contributors" go.

[jon-nyc]

The analogy had occurred to me. Though I was thinking US sports.

[Horace]

It’s the obvious analogy, but with sports you can be confident that the best of the best filter up. This is more a case of high ability coupled with an extraordinary right place right time confluence. Or to put it another way, athletes compete with millions of people who dip their toes into the sport and realize their limits, while these AI guys compete with a tiny fraction of that. How special these guys are will have a half life of a year or so as their market becomes glutted with more competition.

[Doctor Phibes]

I'd be willing to be special for half a year for 250 million bucks.

Hell, a week might be enough.

[Mik]

I'd be willing to undercut them. Hell, I'd do it for $50 million.

[Doctor Phibes]

I wonder if they get paid overtime on top of that.

[Horace]

@Doctor-Phibes said in Fuck coding:

I wonder if they get paid overtime on top of that.

I assume their contract contains language which diminishes the notion that they will have a work/life balance, at that compensation.