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The Epstein File

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  • HoraceH Online
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    Horace
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    #59

    It's funny watching relatively intelligent people pretending to be totally bewildered by when the administration was lying, because they must be lying about something! When they implied that there were huge juicy files with named incriminated names, so that they could use that on the campaign trail to try to get elected in a reality TV platform, or after they got elected and told people that the truth is much less salacious and juicy? I wonder where the most likely lie was?!?!? Omg DEEP STATE, let's all say it together with Tucker Carsen and Alex Jones.

    Education is extremely important.

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      #60

      You’re confusing joy at watching them being hoisted on their own petard with joining in the conspiracy theories.

      The funny thing with Epstein is it wasn’t just the Q-anon types. Even normie republicans got to believing their own memes and developed the absurd view that whatever motivated Epstein - whether foreign intelligence or influence or money - he somehow limited his ‘favors’ to democrats.

      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        You’re confusing joy at watching them being hoisted on their own petard with joining in the conspiracy theories.

        The funny thing with Epstein is it wasn’t just the Q-anon types. Even normie republicans got to believing their own memes and developed the absurd view that whatever motivated Epstein - whether foreign intelligence or influence or money - he somehow limited his ‘favors’ to democrats.

        HoraceH Online
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        #61

        @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

        You’re confusing joy at watching them being hoisted on their own petard with joining in the conspiracy theories.

        Whatever you've convinced yourself is going on in your own mind is not my concern. The fact is that in the public conversation, such as the snippets you posted above from your twitter feed, everybody is giving credence to the existence of this incriminating list, and a coverup now fully joined by the Trump administration.

        Education is extremely important.

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          #62

          I guess you can believe that, after watching them pander to every conspiracy out there and create many new ones of their own, that I had to ‘convince myself’ to enjoy seeing one bite them in the ass. But it should be obvious that came rather naturally to me.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            I guess you can believe that, after watching them pander to every conspiracy out there and create many new ones of their own, that I had to ‘convince myself’ to enjoy seeing one bite them in the ass. But it should be obvious that came rather naturally to me.

            HoraceH Online
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            Horace
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            @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

            I guess you can believe that, after watching them pander to every conspiracy out there and create many new ones of their own, that I had to ‘convince myself’ to enjoy seeing one bite them in the ass. But it should be obvious that came rather naturally to me.

            Your sadistic pleasures are not in dispute. I do dispute the notion that the public conversation currently contains those who don't actually think an incriminating list exists. That means most people on the left have given more credence to the list's existence, now that it scores them political points. Exactly the same motivation the right had, for believing the list exists.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              #64

              There never was a list. Trump knew that all along, although it made a great talking point to both his base and the hysterical progressive left.

              What’s beginning to reveal itself now is Trump’s version of the Night of the Long Knives to purge the “more radical elements” of the MAGAt cult.

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                Or perhaps this is the off ramp of the Trump train for such elements.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                • RenaudaR Offline
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                  #66

                  Could be. Who knows other than Trump himself?

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                    #67

                    Re ‘there never was a list’ likely true, though there were many reports, including from the DoJ, that his properties had hidden cameras everywhere and there was a cache of CDs with videos on them with labels that would say [girls name] with [Epstein guest name]. The mere collection of such titles is essentially a list.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                      #68

                      Okay so Epstein was running a Kitty Salon for the rich and infamous. We already knew that. Trump would know all the details.

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                        #69

                        Also let’s remember that his last arrest, confinement, and suicide (“suicide”?) happened on President Trump’s watch.

                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                          As my 18 year old would say, “that’s a shame”.

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                              #72

                              He seems pretty confident that there’s “phony” stuff in those files.

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                Phony stuff. Hmm. Could be. It rather depends on who amassed the information. A lack of credibility would have been a better explanation than there wasn't one. There may not be a "list' per se, but there IS a quantity of information. I think we can all agree that the FBI/DOJ etc. has been known to be unreliable gatherers and leakers of information.

                                "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                                  At this point who can trust whatever the DOJ or administration releases anyway? Honest question. I'm sure there is a list of people who traveled with Epstein and I'm sure Trump is on the list. Maybe that was already released, what does it even mean? Heck, there could be a video of Trump slamming a 17 year old on a yacht, and most MAGA folks will say it's AI or doesn't matter because it was 30 years ago.

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                                    Phony stuff. Hmm. Could be. It rather depends on who amassed the information. A lack of credibility would have been a better explanation than there wasn't one. There may not be a "list' per se, but there IS a quantity of information. I think we can all agree that the FBI/DOJ etc. has been known to be unreliable gatherers and leakers of information.

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                                      jon-nyc
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                                      FoxNews got the MAGA firmware upgrade too.

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                                      Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        He seems pretty confident that there’s “phony” stuff in those files.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in The Epstein File:

                                        He seems pretty confident that there’s “phony” stuff in those files.

                                        Another interesting thing about this is that this edit by FoxNews during the campaign, is a much bigger favor to Trump then the 60 minutes edit was to Harris. You know, the one Trump used to extort 15MM from Paramount.

                                        Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                          Bret Weinstein chimes in.

                                          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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