Fuck coding

[Horace]

Depriving OpenAI of the talent probably plays into the amount of those offers. Anyway this must be an historic right place, right time confluence for those people with those specific resumes.

[Mik]

Seems like it would be bad for retention after the first year.

[jon-nyc]

Yes but these guys want to create the future the only question is where. They’re probably not typical mercenaries.

[Axtremus]

https://news.crunchbase.com/venture/biggest-seed-round-ai-thinking-machines-mira-murati/

Another "right place, right time, right résumé" situation: $2 Billion "seed round" valuing an AI start-up at $10 Billion; the founder being former OpenAI CTO Mira Murati. IIRC, Murati briefly replaced Sam Altman as interim CEO at OpenAI when Altman was briefly ousted from OpenAI.

[Mik]

Just think what this will do for salary data.

[jon-nyc]

Yeah but that’s why they use medians.

[Horace]

This lets us know how important Zuckerberg thinks it is to be first to market with whatever he is trying to do with AI. I'm sure those people he made those offers to are all bright and talented, but what makes them worth that, is their ability to hit the ground running, towards whatever it is Zuckerberg wants to do. The market will soon be glutted with newly minted AI experts, to whatever extent academia can produce them.

[Mik]

The crap AI he’s stuck into FB is an annoyance.

[taiwan_girl]

I read somewhere that Comp Sci majors are decreasing in schools and those that graduate are having problems getting hired.

[jon-nyc]

Yeah but at the same time ‘software development/engineering’ jobs are climbing so I wonder how much of this is just a nomenclature/categorization shift.

[89th]

@taiwan_girl said in Fuck coding:

I read somewhere that Comp Sci majors are decreasing in schools and those that graduate are having problems getting hired.

Maybe, I could see that. AI does make me a bit concerned about careers for my kids in 15-20 years. For coding, I know 20 years ago I would build website from scratch, literally a blank page starting with "<html...", and 15 years ago it was using content management systems (CMS), then 10 to 5 years ago it was all about converting to the cloud and SaaS and PaaS where solutions are provided and you just configure them, or write scripts (e.g., Python), or build CICD/DevOps pipelines to automate a bunch of stuff, and just this week I was setting up a new GitHub org for a few code repositories and I "activated" the various AI code writing tools that do 95% of the work for you. It's remarkable.

Indeed, though... "coding" will be obsolete soon enough, mostly. SAD. So far I got lucky as I switched from software development in 2020 over to cybersecurity and so far that has been helped by AI and not threatened by it yet. AI is just another tool (per se) we have in our suite of security tools used to stop t3h hax0rs.

[Mik]

I'm still convinced that a human intervention will be required for well-functioning development. I remember back in the 80's we had code generators. Their stuff was utter crap, and totally unreadable. The trick will be in design, as it always has been.

[Horace]

Any job that involves interacting with objects rather than people is on the chopping block. Maybe not in our lifetimes. The jobs that involve talking to people are also going to get hit with substantial splash damage, as most of the talking jobs involve talking about ways to direct and organize humans.

[89th]

I just saw some window washers, their jobs are safe for now.

[Axtremus]

@89th said in Fuck coding:

I just saw some window washers, their jobs are safe for now.

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