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  • L LuFins Dad
    13 Aug 2020, 17:48

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Kamala!:

    @Klaus said in Kamala!:

    I very rarely tout the feminist horn, but the word "misogynist", while often misused, is very appropriate for the immediate and predictable reactions on this board whenever a woman is successful. It doesn't matter whether it's meant in a humorous way. This is the one thing where feminists still have a point. It's disgusting.

    Yep. I was trying to write something similar without sounding completely woke, and gave up, which is quite a sad indictment of both me and the current climate.

    Based on what pattern of behavior do @Klaus and @Doctor-Phibes find this response predictable? Have George or Mik ever commented on the sex lives of AOC, HRC, Pelosi, Bass, or any number of other women? Not that I can recall. Certainly nothing that would make it predictable. Oh, they’ve been attacked on other issues, as have Bernie, Sleepy Joe, Barry, Chuck Schumer, Cuomo, and more. Is that misogyny? Well, maybe Cuomo.

    I’d like a little clarification. Are character attacks on men okay, but not okay on women? What about when it’s true? Does a woman that chooses to use their sexuality as a tool to elevate their position have any responsibility and bear any of the blame to the toxic culture that has permeated the world of politics, media, and life in general that has led to many men abusing their positions?

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    Klaus
    wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 23:05 last edited by
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    @LuFins-Dad said in Kamala!:

    Based on what pattern of behavior do @Klaus and @Doctor-Phibes find this response predictable? Have George or Mik ever commented on the sex lives of AOC, HRC, Pelosi, Bass, or any number of other women? Not that I can recall.

    The pattern is something like this: Successful young attractive woman -> must have slept her way to the top, slut. Women that doesn't fit male stereotypes of attractiveness (such as HRC) -> a butch, probably has a penis. Older woman with strong opinions -> annoying bitch. There are plenty of examples for this on this board (not necessarily from the posters you mention). If you look long enough, you'll always find some flimsy "evidence" for such a predetermined stereotype. Thanks to confirmation bias, that's sufficient to close the case.

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      Horace
      wrote on 13 Aug 2020, 23:09 last edited by
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      The thing with Kamala using her feminine wiles to advance her career seems pretty cut and dried.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • K Klaus
        13 Aug 2020, 23:05

        @LuFins-Dad said in Kamala!:

        Based on what pattern of behavior do @Klaus and @Doctor-Phibes find this response predictable? Have George or Mik ever commented on the sex lives of AOC, HRC, Pelosi, Bass, or any number of other women? Not that I can recall.

        The pattern is something like this: Successful young attractive woman -> must have slept her way to the top, slut. Women that doesn't fit male stereotypes of attractiveness (such as HRC) -> a butch, probably has a penis. Older woman with strong opinions -> annoying bitch. There are plenty of examples for this on this board (not necessarily from the posters you mention). If you look long enough, you'll always find some flimsy "evidence" for such a predetermined stereotype. Thanks to confirmation bias, that's sufficient to close the case.

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        Larry
        wrote on 14 Aug 2020, 01:18 last edited by
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        @Klaus said in Kamala!:

        @LuFins-Dad said in Kamala!:

        Based on what pattern of behavior do @Klaus and @Doctor-Phibes find this response predictable? Have George or Mik ever commented on the sex lives of AOC, HRC, Pelosi, Bass, or any number of other women? Not that I can recall.

        The pattern is something like this: Successful young attractive woman -> must have slept her way to the top, slut. Women that doesn't fit male stereotypes of attractiveness (such as HRC) -> a butch, probably has a penis. Older woman with strong opinions -> annoying bitch. There are plenty of examples for this on this board (not necessarily from the posters you mention). If you look long enough, you'll always find some flimsy "evidence" for such a predetermined stereotype. Thanks to confirmation bias, that's sufficient to close the case.

        There's no pattern except in your mind. There are lots and lots of women who have made it to the top of their field without being accused by anyone - here or otherwise - of whoring herself to do it. Harris is being accused of it because it's a well known fact that she did it.

        Also, before anyone gets all wound up about it and starts throwing rocks, I will remind you of how Sarah Palin was treated, how Trumps wife has been treated, and several others.

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          George K
          wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 21:13 last edited by
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          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 21:31 last edited by
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            Looks like her political career's been Finnished.

            Please love yourself.

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            • A Aqua Letifer
              17 Aug 2020, 21:31

              Looks like her political career's been Finnished.

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              George K
              wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 21:41 last edited by
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              @Aqua-Letifer said in Kamala!:

              Looks like her political career's been Finnished.

              That was a pretty Swede comment!

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • G George K
                17 Aug 2020, 21:41

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Kamala!:

                Looks like her political career's been Finnished.

                That was a pretty Swede comment!

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                jon-nyc
                wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 21:52 last edited by jon-nyc
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                @George-K said in Kamala!:

                @Aqua-Letifer said in Kamala!:

                Looks like her political career's been Finnished.

                That was a pretty Swede comment!

                Den Mark it down as POTD.

                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                -Cormac McCarthy

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                • A Aqua Letifer
                  17 Aug 2020, 21:31

                  Looks like her political career's been Finnished.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 21:53 last edited by
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                  @Aqua-Letifer said in Kamala!:

                  Looks like her political career's been Finnished.

                  Nor way!

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 17 Aug 2020, 22:33 last edited by
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                    Scandalnavian!

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      Larry
                      wrote on 18 Aug 2020, 00:49 last edited by
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                      Does Kamala still chew Copenhagen?..

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                        89th
                        wrote on 18 Aug 2020, 01:22 last edited by
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                        Only when Helsinki freezes over.

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                        • J jon-nyc
                          12 Aug 2020, 17:45

                          Seriously, though, LD, read the Bulwark piece I posted earlier.

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                          Kincaid
                          wrote on 18 Aug 2020, 02:42 last edited by
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                          @jon-nyc said in Kamala!:

                          Seriously, though, LD, read the Bulwark piece I posted earlier.

                          Ah, I remember when Hillary (and everyone else) thought she was going to win.

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                          • L LuFins Dad
                            12 Aug 2020, 17:42

                            Now I ask, did the Kamala selection change a single vote to Biden? Was there anybody out there saying “I wasn’t going to vote for Biden, but now that he’s picked Kamala, I have changed my mind!”?

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                            Kincaid
                            wrote on 18 Aug 2020, 02:44 last edited by
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                            @LuFins-Dad

                            Klobuchar might have been the one for me. But probably not.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 11:59 last edited by
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                              There is no lack of black Americans making positive, reflective statements on what Kamala Harris’ nomination to a major party ticket means to them. There is no lack of Indian Americans doing the same.

                              Officially, the Jamaican Foreign Minister publicly congratulated Harris with a tweet. But nothing from Narendra Modi’s administration. Not that the Modi administration has to say anything, just that the silence there is noteworthy.

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                                Axtremus
                                wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 12:08 last edited by
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                                Tweet from Ram Madhav, leader of a major Indian political party:

                                Going by that Twitter thread, reactions seem more negative than positive on Harris.

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 12:26 last edited by
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                                  I had occasion to spend about 3 hours in a waiting room yesterday morning where CNN was on the TV.

                                  If Kamala had been a male, the only term to describe the CNN coverage would have been a verbal fellating. The talking heads went on, and on, AND ON, about how historic her selection was, how she's a "powerful woman" (who dropped out of the race before the first primary, of course), and how she brings a "new face" to the Democratic party.

                                  Nothing, nothing, was said about her history as a Senator, Congresswoman, or politician at the local level in California.

                                  It reminded me of Bernie Goldberg's book, "A Slobbering Love Affair."

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    Copper
                                    wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 14:38 last edited by
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                                    Please remember to pronounce it correctly

                                    COMMA-la

                                    To do otherwise is racist

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                                    • C Copper
                                      20 Aug 2020, 14:38

                                      Please remember to pronounce it correctly

                                      COMMA-la

                                      To do otherwise is racist

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                                      George K
                                      wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 14:46 last edited by
                                      #111

                                      @Copper said in Kamala!:

                                      Please remember to pronounce it correctly

                                      COMMA-la

                                      To do otherwise is racist

                                      One of the talking heads on CNN said "KaMAla." I should write a letter calling him out for racism.

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 14:48 last edited by
                                        #112

                                        OMG, that is so cruel.

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                                          89th
                                          wrote on 20 Aug 2020, 18:23 last edited by
                                          #113

                                          Maybe she prefers CAMEL-A?

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