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  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

    @Klaus said in Kamala!:

    I very rarely tout the feminist horn, but the word "misogynist", while often misused, is very appropriate for the immediate and predictable reactions on this board whenever a woman is successful. It doesn't matter whether it's meant in a humorous way. This is the one thing where feminists still have a point. It's disgusting.

    Yep. I was trying to write something similar without sounding completely woke, and gave up, which is quite a sad indictment of both me and the current climate.

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    LuFins Dad
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    @Doctor-Phibes said in Kamala!:

    @Klaus said in Kamala!:

    I very rarely tout the feminist horn, but the word "misogynist", while often misused, is very appropriate for the immediate and predictable reactions on this board whenever a woman is successful. It doesn't matter whether it's meant in a humorous way. This is the one thing where feminists still have a point. It's disgusting.

    Yep. I was trying to write something similar without sounding completely woke, and gave up, which is quite a sad indictment of both me and the current climate.

    Based on what pattern of behavior do @Klaus and @Doctor-Phibes find this response predictable? Have George or Mik ever commented on the sex lives of AOC, HRC, Pelosi, Bass, or any number of other women? Not that I can recall. Certainly nothing that would make it predictable. Oh, they’ve been attacked on other issues, as have Bernie, Sleepy Joe, Barry, Chuck Schumer, Cuomo, and more. Is that misogyny? Well, maybe Cuomo.

    I’d like a little clarification. Are character attacks on men okay, but not okay on women? What about when it’s true? Does a woman that chooses to use their sexuality as a tool to elevate their position have any responsibility and bear any of the blame to the toxic culture that has permeated the world of politics, media, and life in general that has led to many men abusing their positions?

    The Brad

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      Copper
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      #91

      Cut her to shreds

      No hesitation

      Remember Ms Palin

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      • CopperC Copper

        Cut her to shreds

        No hesitation

        Remember Ms Palin

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        Jolly
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        #92

        @Copper said in Kamala!:

        Cut her to shreds

        No hesitation

        Remember Ms Palin

        You, sir, are right...

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          Jolly
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          Politics ain't beanbag?

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

            @Doctor-Phibes said in Kamala!:

            @Klaus said in Kamala!:

            I very rarely tout the feminist horn, but the word "misogynist", while often misused, is very appropriate for the immediate and predictable reactions on this board whenever a woman is successful. It doesn't matter whether it's meant in a humorous way. This is the one thing where feminists still have a point. It's disgusting.

            Yep. I was trying to write something similar without sounding completely woke, and gave up, which is quite a sad indictment of both me and the current climate.

            Based on what pattern of behavior do @Klaus and @Doctor-Phibes find this response predictable? Have George or Mik ever commented on the sex lives of AOC, HRC, Pelosi, Bass, or any number of other women? Not that I can recall. Certainly nothing that would make it predictable. Oh, they’ve been attacked on other issues, as have Bernie, Sleepy Joe, Barry, Chuck Schumer, Cuomo, and more. Is that misogyny? Well, maybe Cuomo.

            I’d like a little clarification. Are character attacks on men okay, but not okay on women? What about when it’s true? Does a woman that chooses to use their sexuality as a tool to elevate their position have any responsibility and bear any of the blame to the toxic culture that has permeated the world of politics, media, and life in general that has led to many men abusing their positions?

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            @LuFins-Dad said in Kamala!:

            Based on what pattern of behavior do @Klaus and @Doctor-Phibes find this response predictable? Have George or Mik ever commented on the sex lives of AOC, HRC, Pelosi, Bass, or any number of other women? Not that I can recall.

            The pattern is something like this: Successful young attractive woman -> must have slept her way to the top, slut. Women that doesn't fit male stereotypes of attractiveness (such as HRC) -> a butch, probably has a penis. Older woman with strong opinions -> annoying bitch. There are plenty of examples for this on this board (not necessarily from the posters you mention). If you look long enough, you'll always find some flimsy "evidence" for such a predetermined stereotype. Thanks to confirmation bias, that's sufficient to close the case.

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              The thing with Kamala using her feminine wiles to advance her career seems pretty cut and dried.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • KlausK Klaus

                @LuFins-Dad said in Kamala!:

                Based on what pattern of behavior do @Klaus and @Doctor-Phibes find this response predictable? Have George or Mik ever commented on the sex lives of AOC, HRC, Pelosi, Bass, or any number of other women? Not that I can recall.

                The pattern is something like this: Successful young attractive woman -> must have slept her way to the top, slut. Women that doesn't fit male stereotypes of attractiveness (such as HRC) -> a butch, probably has a penis. Older woman with strong opinions -> annoying bitch. There are plenty of examples for this on this board (not necessarily from the posters you mention). If you look long enough, you'll always find some flimsy "evidence" for such a predetermined stereotype. Thanks to confirmation bias, that's sufficient to close the case.

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                Larry
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                #96

                @Klaus said in Kamala!:

                @LuFins-Dad said in Kamala!:

                Based on what pattern of behavior do @Klaus and @Doctor-Phibes find this response predictable? Have George or Mik ever commented on the sex lives of AOC, HRC, Pelosi, Bass, or any number of other women? Not that I can recall.

                The pattern is something like this: Successful young attractive woman -> must have slept her way to the top, slut. Women that doesn't fit male stereotypes of attractiveness (such as HRC) -> a butch, probably has a penis. Older woman with strong opinions -> annoying bitch. There are plenty of examples for this on this board (not necessarily from the posters you mention). If you look long enough, you'll always find some flimsy "evidence" for such a predetermined stereotype. Thanks to confirmation bias, that's sufficient to close the case.

                There's no pattern except in your mind. There are lots and lots of women who have made it to the top of their field without being accused by anyone - here or otherwise - of whoring herself to do it. Harris is being accused of it because it's a well known fact that she did it.

                Also, before anyone gets all wound up about it and starts throwing rocks, I will remind you of how Sarah Palin was treated, how Trumps wife has been treated, and several others.

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                  George K
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                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    Aqua Letifer
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                    #98

                    Looks like her political career's been Finnished.

                    Please love yourself.

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                    • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                      Looks like her political career's been Finnished.

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                      @Aqua-Letifer said in Kamala!:

                      Looks like her political career's been Finnished.

                      That was a pretty Swede comment!

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Kamala!:

                        Looks like her political career's been Finnished.

                        That was a pretty Swede comment!

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #100

                        @George-K said in Kamala!:

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in Kamala!:

                        Looks like her political career's been Finnished.

                        That was a pretty Swede comment!

                        Den Mark it down as POTD.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          Looks like her political career's been Finnished.

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #101

                          @Aqua-Letifer said in Kamala!:

                          Looks like her political career's been Finnished.

                          Nor way!

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            Scandalnavian!

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                              Larry
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                              #103

                              Does Kamala still chew Copenhagen?..

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                                89th
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                                Only when Helsinki freezes over.

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                                • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                  Seriously, though, LD, read the Bulwark piece I posted earlier.

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                                  @jon-nyc said in Kamala!:

                                  Seriously, though, LD, read the Bulwark piece I posted earlier.

                                  Ah, I remember when Hillary (and everyone else) thought she was going to win.

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                                  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                    Now I ask, did the Kamala selection change a single vote to Biden? Was there anybody out there saying “I wasn’t going to vote for Biden, but now that he’s picked Kamala, I have changed my mind!”?

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                                    Kincaid
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                                    #106

                                    @LuFins-Dad

                                    Klobuchar might have been the one for me. But probably not.

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                                      There is no lack of black Americans making positive, reflective statements on what Kamala Harris’ nomination to a major party ticket means to them. There is no lack of Indian Americans doing the same.

                                      Officially, the Jamaican Foreign Minister publicly congratulated Harris with a tweet. But nothing from Narendra Modi’s administration. Not that the Modi administration has to say anything, just that the silence there is noteworthy.

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                                        Axtremus
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                                        Tweet from Ram Madhav, leader of a major Indian political party:

                                        Going by that Twitter thread, reactions seem more negative than positive on Harris.

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                                          George K
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                                          I had occasion to spend about 3 hours in a waiting room yesterday morning where CNN was on the TV.

                                          If Kamala had been a male, the only term to describe the CNN coverage would have been a verbal fellating. The talking heads went on, and on, AND ON, about how historic her selection was, how she's a "powerful woman" (who dropped out of the race before the first primary, of course), and how she brings a "new face" to the Democratic party.

                                          Nothing, nothing, was said about her history as a Senator, Congresswoman, or politician at the local level in California.

                                          It reminded me of Bernie Goldberg's book, "A Slobbering Love Affair."

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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