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    Klaus
    wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 23:14 last edited by
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    165?

    Wouldn’t that be extraordinary low for your age? I thought it’s usually around 220-age.

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    • K Klaus
      11 Apr 2020, 23:14

      165?

      Wouldn’t that be extraordinary low for your age? I thought it’s usually around 220-age.

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      George K
      wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 23:16 last edited by
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      @Klaus said in The workout thread:

      165?

      Wouldn’t that be extraordinary low for your age? I thought it’s usually around 220-age.

      Assume Aqua is 35. That would mean a heart rate of 185.

      That's fast, really really fast.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Klaus
        wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 23:17 last edited by
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        I'm 45 and I hit 175 on a regular basis.

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        • K Klaus
          11 Apr 2020, 23:14

          165?

          Wouldn’t that be extraordinary low for your age? I thought it’s usually around 220-age.

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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 23:18 last edited by
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          @Klaus Well, FitBits might not be the most accurate. I have a pulse oximeter, so I'll double check next workout.

          And, up to a month ago, I was the most sedentary I had ever been in my life. FitBit tells me my heart health is back up to "average to good," but I'm nowhere near as in shape as I've been before. So I dunno what it's supposed to be, I just go out five days a week and do my best.

          Please love yourself.

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          • G George K
            11 Apr 2020, 23:16

            @Klaus said in The workout thread:

            165?

            Wouldn’t that be extraordinary low for your age? I thought it’s usually around 220-age.

            Assume Aqua is 35. That would mean a heart rate of 185.

            That's fast, really really fast.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 23:19 last edited by
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            @George-K said in The workout thread:

            @Klaus said in The workout thread:

            165?

            Wouldn’t that be extraordinary low for your age? I thought it’s usually around 220-age.

            Assume Aqua is 35. That would mean a heart rate of 185.

            That's fast, really really fast.

            George, my resting is 53, FWIW.

            Please love yourself.

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              Aqua Letifer
              wrote on 11 Apr 2020, 23:24 last edited by
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              63D9640A-37F0-4FF0-951E-52BFF20457C8.jpeg

              The purple line is where I started at a month ago. This is FitBit's "cardio fitness score," not heart rate.

              Please love yourself.

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 00:09 last edited by Doctor Phibes 4 Dec 2020, 00:10
                #48

                Hey, you learn something every day - I never knew that was available on the Fitbit.

                Even better, it says mine is Excellent, which considering the winter I've had, is a tad optimistic, I think

                I was only joking

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                • K Klaus
                  11 Apr 2020, 23:17

                  I'm 45 and I hit 175 on a regular basis.

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                  Doctor Phibes
                  wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 00:10 last edited by
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                  @Klaus said in The workout thread:

                  I'm 45 and I hit 175 on a regular basis.

                  Famous last words

                  I was only joking

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                    Rich
                    wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 15:54 last edited by
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                    Morning long run:

                    alt text

                    Hoping that some of the fall marathons will actually take place....Now that I’m 40, the qualifying time for Boston have gotten at least somewhat more realistic.

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                      Loki
                      wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 16:03 last edited by
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                      A couple of things about heart rate. 220-age is usually good but some people have unusually high heart rates when workin out. This is not related to physical condition.

                      As far as max for people it usually is related to physical condition. People in really good shape can attain 80% of max for a sustained period of time and 85% of max can be a good target for longer races. Most people struggle staying over 90% for long because one goes anaerobic. Once the lactic acid comes you are going fail, probably life saving brake.

                      Fitbits, garmin on the watch can be bad for measuring heart rate while working out, the highs are notoriously artificial. You need a chest strap to be sure.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 17:51 last edited by
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                        I've used a chest strap and find that it pretty much agrees with the Fitbit.

                        I think the best way to determine your actual maximum heart rate is to work out until you're just on the verge of a coronary, but don't actually have one, so you'll know for next time. If you do have one, you'll know for a short period of time with absolute certainty what the maximum is, but that shows Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle in action, since the measurement will have modified your maximum heart rate, possibly to zero.

                        I was only joking

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                        • R Rich
                          12 Apr 2020, 15:54

                          Morning long run:

                          alt text

                          Hoping that some of the fall marathons will actually take place....Now that I’m 40, the qualifying time for Boston have gotten at least somewhat more realistic.

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                          Optimistic
                          wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 18:11 last edited by
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                          @Rich
                          That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

                          Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

                          I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

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                          • O Optimistic
                            12 Apr 2020, 18:11

                            @Rich
                            That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

                            Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

                            I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

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                            Loki
                            wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 18:24 last edited by
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                            @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

                            @Rich
                            That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

                            Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

                            I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

                            Yeah a 7:24 pace for a casual long run is killer. Anybody doing that could qualify for Boston with a good training program.

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                            • A Aqua Letifer
                              11 Apr 2020, 23:24

                              63D9640A-37F0-4FF0-951E-52BFF20457C8.jpeg

                              The purple line is where I started at a month ago. This is FitBit's "cardio fitness score," not heart rate.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 19:04 last edited by
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                              @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

                              63D9640A-37F0-4FF0-951E-52BFF20457C8.jpeg

                              The purple line is where I started at a month ago. This is FitBit's "cardio fitness score," not heart rate.

                              Mine says ‘very good to excellent’ but basically the same numerical range as yours. I guess it’s age related.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                                Aqua Letifer
                                wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 19:08 last edited by
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                                Part of it is, yeah.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  12 Apr 2020, 19:04

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

                                  63D9640A-37F0-4FF0-951E-52BFF20457C8.jpeg

                                  The purple line is where I started at a month ago. This is FitBit's "cardio fitness score," not heart rate.

                                  Mine says ‘very good to excellent’ but basically the same numerical range as yours. I guess it’s age related.

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                                  Loki
                                  wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 20:01 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc said in The workout thread:

                                  @Aqua-Letifer said in The workout thread:

                                  63D9640A-37F0-4FF0-951E-52BFF20457C8.jpeg

                                  The purple line is where I started at a month ago. This is FitBit's "cardio fitness score," not heart rate.

                                  Mine says ‘very good to excellent’ but basically the same numerical range as yours. I guess it’s age related.

                                  That is VO2max. There are charts by age you can google. Mine says it puts me at the age of a 20 year old. Really low resting heart rate too. I had a vascular study of my carotid, heart and leg veins via ultrasound after a friend in shape died of a stroke in his sleep. Probably worth it as you age.

                                  VO2 max is considered the best measurement of aerobic fitness.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 12 Apr 2020, 20:26 last edited by
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                                    How do they estimate it without measuring O2?

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

                                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                    • O Optimistic
                                      12 Apr 2020, 18:11

                                      @Rich
                                      That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

                                      Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

                                      I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

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                                      Rich
                                      wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 09:49 last edited by
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                                      @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

                                      @Rich
                                      That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

                                      Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

                                      I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

                                      I had a couple 5k's on my mind, but was really only committed to pacing the 2hour group again at a local half. After that, the plan plan was get ready for a 20K in August, and use that to base marathon training off of. (something mid-October)

                                      I'm sure your friend was disappointed about Tokyo. From what I understand, they're allowing people who were registered, to register (and pay) again next year, without having to go through the lottery process. They ran the race--but only for elites.

                                      So if the half in St Michael's is allowing you to simply defer--you're fortunate!

                                      Cool to see you're still running. Around here, the rail-trails have gotten so crowded, and the streets so quiet, I've switched to almost entirely roads.

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                                      • L Loki
                                        12 Apr 2020, 18:24

                                        @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

                                        @Rich
                                        That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

                                        Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

                                        I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

                                        Yeah a 7:24 pace for a casual long run is killer. Anybody doing that could qualify for Boston with a good training program.

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                                        Rich
                                        wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 10:04 last edited by
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                                        @Loki said in The workout thread:

                                        @Optimistic said in The workout thread:

                                        @Rich
                                        That´s awesome, Rich! Great pace.

                                        Were you registered for any spring races? I have a coworker who was registered for the Tokyo marathon, which of course was cancelled.

                                        I´m not a marathon person, but I was signed up for a half marathon in May in St. Michael´s, MD--flattest Half on the East Coast 🙂 Registration will defer to next year.

                                        Yeah a 7:24 pace for a casual long run is killer. Anybody doing that could qualify for Boston with a good training program.

                                        Truthfully, I definitely run my long runs harder than I need to....and though it feels comfortable, probably harder than I should.

                                        If you have a source for good training plans--I'm all ears!

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                                          Klaus
                                          wrote on 13 Apr 2020, 10:08 last edited by Klaus
                                          #61

                                          @Rich that is a fantastic time for such a long run. I wish I could do that. If I'd run with that tempo, the run would be over for me after a single mile. Running a half-marathon is low-key on my agenda, but I wouldn't even dream of something faster than 2h. I'm surprised, though, that you burned only 1349 Cal. You must have a rather low body weight.

                                          I sent you a follow request on Strava.

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