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My first drive of an EV

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  • taiwan_girlT Offline
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    #53

    https://www.scmp.com/business/china-business/article/3274368/geelys-zeekr-unit-unveils-ultra-fast-charging-ev-battery-chinas-electrification-race

    Zeekr Intelligent Technology, the premium electric vehicle (EV) maker controlled by Geely Auto, has unveiled a new battery technology that can offer a car a nearly 500-kilometre (310-mile) range with just 10.5 minutes of charging, as the industry steps up the electrification process.

    Zeekr’s self-developed lithium-ion-phosphate (LFP) battery, dubbed Golden Battery and installed on its 007 electric sedan, supports 800-volt ultra-fast charging and assures owners of “swift and reliable” performance, the company said in a statement on Tuesday. The 75-kilowatt-hour battery, when fully charged, allows a car to go as far as 682km, it added.

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      Nice. Even if those numbers are a bit exaggerated and/or rely on optimal driving conditions, that’s still good progress.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • taiwan_girlT Offline
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        #55

        While I am not sure of the re-charge rate, I know that Lucid (a US car maker) has a real demonstrated 500+ mile range with their cars.

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        • jon-nycJ Offline
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          #56

          There’s a Lucid dealer in a high-end mall here. They look pretty sweet. But I doubt I’d consider an electric car for my next purchase in 2027 timeframe (probably send the boy to college with the Mazda).

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • AxtremusA Offline
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            It's not just "battery technology" but also the "charging infrastructure" more broadly. I see myself sticking with gas/hybrid for quite a while yet.

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            • 89th8 Offline
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              #58

              Same, both to Jon and Ax.

              I'm guessing in the next few years there will be a large anti-battery movement considering the electricity has to come from "somewhere" and the battery uses rare or mined earth materials from "somewhere".

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              • CopperC Offline
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                It is nice they made progress.

                This isn't yet the progress that beats internal combustion.

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                • AxtremusA Offline
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                  I looked up how long a Tesla car can hold its change (if you just let the car sit there doing nothing) and came away with this:

                  It loses 1%~2% of its charge per day.

                  So you charge a new Tesla to 100%, you unplug it, and just leave it there. After 100 days, the battery charge will have all dissipated. (And supposedly you're going to have a lot of other problems as a consequence of letting the battery run down to zero.)

                  Older Tesla cars (older batteries) will likely run out of charge sooner, maybe a couple of months.

                  So ... how does this compare to gas engines? How bad will it get if you let a gasoline car with a full tank of gas sit in a garage for two months to 100 days?

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                  • 89th8 89th

                    Same, both to Jon and Ax.

                    I'm guessing in the next few years there will be a large anti-battery movement considering the electricity has to come from "somewhere" and the battery uses rare or mined earth materials from "somewhere".

                    taiwan_girlT Offline
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                    @89th said in My first drive of an EV:

                    ...or mined earth materials from "somewhere".

                    Recent article:

                    Serbia has withdrawn the exploration licences of Anglo-Australian mining company Rio Tinto following weeks of protests over plans for a lithium mine.

                    "All permits were annulled... we put an end to Rio Tinto in Serbia," Prime Minister Ana Brnabic said on Thursday.

                    The decision comes just weeks ahead of Serbia's general election in April.

                    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60081853

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                    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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                      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2025-04-22/unpacking-catl-s-five-minute-ev-charging-video

                      Today, both CATL and BYD claim to have batteries that can charge electric vehicles in as little as five minutes. However, CATL raised the stakes earlier this week in Shanghai when it revealed that the 320-mile range of its new Shenxing battery is around 70 miles longer than BYD’s claimed 250-mile range, and it can charge that range in 5 minutes. By contrast, Tesla's Superchargers are only capable of providing 200 miles of range in around 15 minutes.

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