Powell: "I won't quit"
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@George-K said in Powell: "I won't quit":
What other "independent" parts of the US government exist?
Supreme Court?
wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 02:53 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Powell: "I won't quit":
@George-K said in Powell: "I won't quit":
What other "independent" parts of the US government exist?
Supreme Court?
No. The Supreme Court is a branch, one of three, of the government as established by the constitution as part of the judiciary. It is co-equal with the executive and legislative branches.
Where does the Federal Reserve fit into that? Which one of the three branches does it fall under?
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wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 04:08 last edited by
I don’t know the particulars about removing a fed governor or chair but I can say it is very very independent.
The Federal Reserve Board of Governors (full disclosure, where one of my sisters works) is technically a Government Agency. But they don’t own the banks in the system, they just have an oversight role.
The individual banks are “owned”, but not really, by member banks from that region. But those banks have limited rights, can’t sell the stock, can’t set policy, etc.
Ultimately it’s accountable to congress who created it and could amend the legislation if it wanted to.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 04:11 last edited by
I consulted for the NY Fed, the one regional branch with a special function that puts it above the others - it actually is a market participant that literally implements Fed policy by buying and selling bonds (“open market operations”, in the vernacular)
In my experience they behave as if they were a government agency when it’s convenient and they act like it’s private when it suits them.
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wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 08:37 last edited by
INteresting. I think that the ability to stay pretty independent is, in the long term, very good for the US economy.
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I consulted for the NY Fed, the one regional branch with a special function that puts it above the others - it actually is a market participant that literally implements Fed policy by buying and selling bonds (“open market operations”, in the vernacular)
In my experience they behave as if they were a government agency when it’s convenient and they act like it’s private when it suits them.
wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 12:44 last edited by@jon-nyc said in Powell: "I won't quit":
In my experience they behave as if they were a government agency when it’s convenient and they act like it’s private when it suits them.
Perfect.
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INteresting. I think that the ability to stay pretty independent is, in the long term, very good for the US economy.
wrote on 9 Nov 2024, 12:48 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Powell: "I won't quit":
INteresting. I think that the ability to stay pretty independent is, in the long term, very good for the US economy.
It is. Looking historically non-independent central banks ending up serving the interest of the political career of the executive rather than the country. It’s inevitable.
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wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 01:27 last edited by
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wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 12:55 last edited by
Apparently we're all getting rich. I'm still waiting for that shit to trickle down.
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wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 12:57 last edited by
Work harder.
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wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 13:02 last edited by
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wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 13:07 last edited by
Work harder. I've already planted two rows of peas.
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wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 13:11 last edited by
Now it's time for some peas and quiet.
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wrote on 18 Apr 2025, 17:42 last edited by
Nah, I cleaned the A/C fins, did some plant watering and push-mowed the dog's yard. Gonna go mow on the rider for about an hour, then I've got other stuff to do.
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wrote on 21 Apr 2025, 21:07 last edited by
Do you think he’ll try to fire Powell?
Or is he just setting him up to be blamed for the likely recession that Trump and Trump alone and nobody else but Trump is bringing on?
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wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 01:28 last edited by
Can he fire him? I thought it was not possible.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 02:58 last edited by 89th
Whether he fires Powell or later replaces him (next year?) with a Hulk Hogan type person when his term is up, I am (in a slightly tin-foil hat way) concerned it would lead to a ripple effect that'll really put the US dollar at risk sending the world into a massive financial depression.
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Can he fire him? I thought it was not possible.
wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 08:56 last edited by@taiwan_girl said in Powell: "I won't quit":
Can he fire him? I thought it was not possible.
Under the law it isn’t but he may try to test that in the courts under the ‘unitary executive’ theory.
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wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 22:55 last edited by
President Donald Trump said Tuesday he has no plans to fire Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell, just days after his statement that he would like to terminate the head of the U.S. central bank caused a stock market selloff.
https://apnews.com/article/federal-reserve-trump-jerome-powel-4710172f1fd4d6493769ac0b81703c01
Do we have a "whiplash" emoji? LOL. Was he lying then or is lying now?
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wrote on 22 Apr 2025, 22:58 last edited by
Yes.