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Powell: "I won't quit"

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    I've heard the Board of Governors described as "Independent within the government".

    Weird.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      I've heard the Board of Governors described as "Independent within the government".

      Weird.

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      @Jolly said in Powell: "I won't quit":

      I've heard the Board of Governors described as "Independent within the government".

      Weird.

      I'm just an old guy who breathed too many halogenated hydrocarbons for 40+ years.

      What the actual fuck does that mean?

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        @Jolly said in Powell: "I won't quit":

        I've heard the Board of Governors described as "Independent within the government".

        Weird.

        I'm just an old guy who breathed too many halogenated hydrocarbons for 40+ years.

        What the actual fuck does that mean?

        JollyJ Offline
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        @George-K said in Powell: "I won't quit":

        @Jolly said in Powell: "I won't quit":

        I've heard the Board of Governors described as "Independent within the government".

        Weird.

        I'm just an old guy who breathed too many halogenated hydrocarbons for 40+ years.

        What the actual fuck does that mean?

        That means that once appointed, unless you catch them in bed with a live boy or a dead woman, they ain't going anywhere they don't want to go.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          @George-K said in Powell: "I won't quit":

          @Jolly said in Powell: "I won't quit":

          I've heard the Board of Governors described as "Independent within the government".

          Weird.

          I'm just an old guy who breathed too many halogenated hydrocarbons for 40+ years.

          What the actual fuck does that mean?

          That means that once appointed, unless you catch them in bed with a live boy or a dead woman, they ain't going anywhere they don't want to go.

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          @Jolly said in Powell: "I won't quit":

          That means that once appointed, unless you catch them in bed with a live boy or a dead woman, they ain't going anywhere they don't want to go.

          Well put. I haven't heard that expression in a while.

          Continuing the thoughts on accountability, who has the power to dissolve the Fed and replace it with something else, assuming its continued existence is a good thing?

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            Once appointed, is there any accountability?

            I'm not saying that Powell should be ousted - at all. Just wondering about the Fed. What other "independent" parts of the US government exist? Or, is the Fed not part of the government?

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            @George-K said in Powell: "I won't quit":

            What other "independent" parts of the US government exist?

            Supreme Court?

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            • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

              @George-K said in Powell: "I won't quit":

              What other "independent" parts of the US government exist?

              Supreme Court?

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              @taiwan_girl said in Powell: "I won't quit":

              @George-K said in Powell: "I won't quit":

              What other "independent" parts of the US government exist?

              Supreme Court?

              No. The Supreme Court is a branch, one of three, of the government as established by the constitution as part of the judiciary. It is co-equal with the executive and legislative branches.

              Where does the Federal Reserve fit into that? Which one of the three branches does it fall under?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                I don’t know the particulars about removing a fed governor or chair but I can say it is very very independent.

                The Federal Reserve Board of Governors (full disclosure, where one of my sisters works) is technically a Government Agency. But they don’t own the banks in the system, they just have an oversight role.

                The individual banks are “owned”, but not really, by member banks from that region. But those banks have limited rights, can’t sell the stock, can’t set policy, etc.

                Ultimately it’s accountable to congress who created it and could amend the legislation if it wanted to.

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  I consulted for the NY Fed, the one regional branch with a special function that puts it above the others - it actually is a market participant that literally implements Fed policy by buying and selling bonds (“open market operations”, in the vernacular)

                  In my experience they behave as if they were a government agency when it’s convenient and they act like it’s private when it suits them.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                    INteresting. I think that the ability to stay pretty independent is, in the long term, very good for the US economy.

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      I consulted for the NY Fed, the one regional branch with a special function that puts it above the others - it actually is a market participant that literally implements Fed policy by buying and selling bonds (“open market operations”, in the vernacular)

                      In my experience they behave as if they were a government agency when it’s convenient and they act like it’s private when it suits them.

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                      @jon-nyc said in Powell: "I won't quit":

                      In my experience they behave as if they were a government agency when it’s convenient and they act like it’s private when it suits them.

                      Perfect.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        INteresting. I think that the ability to stay pretty independent is, in the long term, very good for the US economy.

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                        @taiwan_girl said in Powell: "I won't quit":

                        INteresting. I think that the ability to stay pretty independent is, in the long term, very good for the US economy.

                        It is. Looking historically non-independent central banks ending up serving the interest of the political career of the executive rather than the country. It’s inevitable.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                          President Trump, the great economic thinker that he is, gives his opinion on Chairman Powell. As always, he keeps is classy.

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                            Bloody hell another thread I started reading, not realizing the posts were from last year. And then I get excited because I thought @George-K was posting!

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                              Apparently we're all getting rich. I'm still waiting for that shit to trickle down.

                              I was only joking

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Work harder.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Work harder.

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                                  @Jolly said in Powell: "I won't quit":

                                  Work harder.

                                  Fuck off, I've been here since 6am.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • JollyJ Offline
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                                    Work harder. I've already planted two rows of peas.

                                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      Now it's time for some peas and quiet.

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                                      • JollyJ Offline
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                                        Nah, I cleaned the A/C fins, did some plant watering and push-mowed the dog's yard. Gonna go mow on the rider for about an hour, then I've got other stuff to do.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          Do you think he’ll try to fire Powell?

                                          Or is he just setting him up to be blamed for the likely recession that Trump and Trump alone and nobody else but Trump is bringing on?

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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