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Faux News is worse than I thought.

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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @89th said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

    @Jolly said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

    @89th said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

    @Jolly What question? Waltz literally added Goldberg to the chat. There is no way around it. No hacking, no typo phone numbers. The way the app works is you have to deliberately select which people to bring in, mostly using the display name (JG, in this case). Some are saying Waltz probably meant to add JG (Jamieson Greer, the US Trade representative).

    Did I say hacking?

    Read very carefully what I wrote.

    You asked:

    My only concern with this matter is how did Goldshit get on the chat? Was it a mistake? Or was it deliberate?And knowing that Goldshit has written outright lies about Trump in the past, who would even have the guy in their contacts?

    How? Waltz added him.

    Mistake? Yes.

    Deliberate? No.

    Why was his info in Waltz's phone? No idea. Waltz seems somewhat slimy and inept, but I'm guessing the JG contact was in his phone as a suggest contact and when he went to form the Signal group he clicked on JG not realizing it wasn't the trade ambassador.

    Keep following the bread crumbs...Why would Waltz have Greenshit's contact info on Signal?

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    @Jolly said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

    @89th said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

    @Jolly said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

    @89th said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

    @Jolly What question? Waltz literally added Goldberg to the chat. There is no way around it. No hacking, no typo phone numbers. The way the app works is you have to deliberately select which people to bring in, mostly using the display name (JG, in this case). Some are saying Waltz probably meant to add JG (Jamieson Greer, the US Trade representative).

    Did I say hacking?

    Read very carefully what I wrote.

    You asked:

    My only concern with this matter is how did Goldshit get on the chat? Was it a mistake? Or was it deliberate?And knowing that Goldshit has written outright lies about Trump in the past, who would even have the guy in their contacts?

    How? Waltz added him.

    Mistake? Yes.

    Deliberate? No.

    Why was his info in Waltz's phone? No idea. Waltz seems somewhat slimy and inept, but I'm guessing the JG contact was in his phone as a suggest contact and when he went to form the Signal group he clicked on JG not realizing it wasn't the trade ambassador.

    Keep following the bread crumbs...Why would Waltz have Greenshit's contact info on Signal?

    Most likely a "suggested contact" since that is how the Signal app works. I have friends in the government who said the "accidental add" happens very often. Probably one reason classified content is not allowed.

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      @jon-nyc said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

      I find it notable that, of the dozen or so people on the chat, not one said ‘should we be doing this on Signal?’ That, plus Trump’s comments being only about Walz, suggests the use of signal for NatSec discussions and operations is endemic and will continue.

      I'd imagine each defense and intel agency is sending very clear guidance to their employees about if they can use Signal and, if so, what it can be used for. I'd also imagine WhiskeyLeaks & Gang will be very gun shy in the future about using it, so maybe this is (barf) a good "lessons learned" event.

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      jon-nyc
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      @89th said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

      @jon-nyc said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

      I find it notable that, of the dozen or so people on the chat, not one said ‘should we be doing this on Signal?’ That, plus Trump’s comments being only about Walz, suggests the use of signal for NatSec discussions and operations is endemic and will continue.

      I'd imagine each defense and intel agency is sending very clear guidance to their employees about if they can use Signal and, if so, what it can be used for. I'd also imagine WhiskeyLeaks & Gang will be very gun shy in the future about using it, so maybe this is (barf) a good "lessons learned" event.

      Several million people with security clearances will have to undergo extra boring-and-pointless security training sessions triggered by the moronic mistakes of the Fools at the Top.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        And that costs millions of taxpayer dollars in labor costs. Fun!

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        • HoraceH Horace

          There was no harm done, and it won't happen again. The level of carelessness involved is impossible to defend, and it's put Gabbard and others in a position where they have to spend some of their credibility weaseling around the questions. But this will blow over in any case, mostly because 1. it was an accident that won't happen again, and 2. no harm was done.

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          @Horace said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

          But this will blow over in any case, mostly because 1. it was an accident that won't happen again, and 2. no harm was done.

          1. Not an accident. The choice to use Signal to talk military plans was deliberate.

          2. Hillary's email server also did no harm.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            @89th said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

            @jon-nyc said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

            I find it notable that, of the dozen or so people on the chat, not one said ‘should we be doing this on Signal?’ That, plus Trump’s comments being only about Walz, suggests the use of signal for NatSec discussions and operations is endemic and will continue.

            I'd imagine each defense and intel agency is sending very clear guidance to their employees about if they can use Signal and, if so, what it can be used for. I'd also imagine WhiskeyLeaks & Gang will be very gun shy in the future about using it, so maybe this is (barf) a good "lessons learned" event.

            Several million people with security clearances will have to undergo extra boring-and-pointless security training sessions triggered by the moronic mistakes of the Fools at the Top.

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            @jon-nyc said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

            boring-and-pointless security training

            Use the money that was saved on DEI training.

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @Horace said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

              But this will blow over in any case, mostly because 1. it was an accident that won't happen again, and 2. no harm was done.

              1. Not an accident. The choice to use Signal to talk military plans was deliberate.

              2. Hillary's email server also did no harm.

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              @Axtremus said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

              @Horace said in Faux News is worse than I thought.:

              But this will blow over in any case, mostly because 1. it was an accident that won't happen again, and 2. no harm was done.

              1. Not an accident. The choice to use Signal to talk military plans was deliberate.

              Obviously for all practical purposes this is a non-issue except for the accidental part I was referring to.

              From even a legally pedantic perspective, it may have been a non-issue, but for that accidental part.

              Education is extremely important.

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                Copper
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                The neighborhood garden club uses Signal here, no problem.

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                  jon-nyc
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                  #46

                  But when you plan an attack on the bird watching club, I assume you move to secure devices.

                  "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                  -Cormac McCarthy

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                    Copper
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                    #47

                    Apparently not, this is the current Garden Club post, you obviously had access.

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                      Horace
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                      Sugar water? Do the birds use SNAP for that?

                      Education is extremely important.

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                        jon-nyc
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                        They won’t if the big bad orange bird has his way.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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