Tren de Aragua
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wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 00:16 last edited by
In February, the State Department designated Tren de Aragua, as well as the MS-13 gang tied to El Salvador, as foreign terrorist organizations.
Tren de Aragua — which means “train from Aragua” in Spanish — is a loose network that doesn’t operate like the groups typically considered terrorist organizations, such as the Taliban or al-Qaeda, the experts said. Its main leader is Héctor “El Niño” Guerrero, who is at large.
“There’s no ideological cause. Their only objective is money,” said Ronna Rísquez, an investigative journalist and expert on organized crime in Latin America. “If you define terrorism as spreading fear, then sure. But if you compare them to the organizations that the U.S. typically designates as terrorists, there’s a huge gap.”
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wrote on 17 Mar 2025, 00:27 last edited by Mik
So what? They terrorize citizens everywhere they are. Close enough for me. I’ve long wondered when we’d go after the gangs and cartels.
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wrote on 18 Mar 2025, 15:27 last edited by
https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/immigration/us-deports-gang-members-prison-el-salvador/
The U.S. deported more than 250 alleged gang members to El Salvador this weekend, and video posted to social media shows the harsh reception they received in the Central American country.
Salvadoran officials said the detainees included 238 Venezuelans who are members of the Tren de Aragua gang, as well as 23 members of MS-13. They were immediately transferred to a Terrorism Confinement Center, where they are scheduled to stay for at least one year, under an agreement between the U.S. and El Salvador worth $6 million, according to the Associated Press.
What is the Tren de Aragua gang, linked to several crimes in US?“The United States will pay a very low fee for them, but a high one for us,” Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele said in comments on X that accompanied government video of the high-security exchange.
In the footage, shackled prisoners are seen stumbling forward as heavily armed officers push them along.
Detainees’ wrists, ankles and waists are tightly bound, forcing them to shuffle in short, restricted steps. On the tarmac, riot police stand shoulder to shoulder, gripping their batons as helicopters hover overhead, scanning for any disturbances.
Serves them right, I think.
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wrote on 18 Mar 2025, 20:14 last edited by
Here’s the thing, I’m willing to let the courts decide on the legality of Trump’s use of the old Foreign Enemy Law, but in general, this is still an 80/20 issue. The public want them out of the country, and so even a legal win by the Democrats on this is a political loss. Not that I believe that should be a determining factor, but there is a cost to this.
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wrote on 18 Mar 2025, 20:22 last edited by jon-nyc
But a win by people who believe in the rule of law (not all of us are Democrats) wouldn’t stop them from being deported it would just put a wee bit of due process in there.
Right now there nothing to stop Trump from sending you to a concentration camp in El Salvador. At no point is there any process whatsoever that would allow you to say to any magistrate ‘but I was born in Pennsylvania and I can prove it FFS’.
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wrote on 18 Mar 2025, 23:23 last edited by
The law is an ass.
On this issue, don't you think the judges aren't considering the political implications.
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The law is an ass.
On this issue, don't you think the judges aren't considering the political implications.
wrote on 18 Mar 2025, 23:57 last edited by -
The law is an ass.
On this issue, don't you think the judges aren't considering the political implications.
wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 00:42 last edited by@Jolly said in Tren de Aragua:
The law is an ass.
On this issue, don't you think the judges aren't considering the political implications.
No way scotus lets the 1802 law be used for immigrants. Neither text, history, nor tradition support it. 7-2 decision is my guess. If it even comes to that.
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wrote on 25 Mar 2025, 23:02 last edited by
Bill Barr agrees with the Trump admin
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wrote on 25 Mar 2025, 23:10 last edited by
WTF does Barr know? He's only been AG a couple of times...
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wrote on 26 Mar 2025, 00:23 last edited by
@Jolly said in Tren de Aragua:
WTF does Barr know?
President Trump doesn't think much of him. LOL
"Wow! Former A.G. Bill Barr, ........... has just Endorsed me for President despite the fact that I called him 'Weak, Slow Moving, Lethargic, Gutless, and Lazy,'".
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wrote on 26 Mar 2025, 00:33 last edited by
Bill Barr is educated, experienced, and accomplished. He is also correct, when he agrees with me.
