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Tren de Aragua

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    taiwan_girl
    wrote on 18 Mar 2025, 15:27 last edited by
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    https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/immigration/us-deports-gang-members-prison-el-salvador/

    The U.S. deported more than 250 alleged gang members to El Salvador this weekend, and video posted to social media shows the harsh reception they received in the Central American country.

    Salvadoran officials said the detainees included 238 Venezuelans who are members of the Tren de Aragua gang, as well as 23 members of MS-13. They were immediately transferred to a Terrorism Confinement Center, where they are scheduled to stay for at least one year, under an agreement between the U.S. and El Salvador worth $6 million, according to the Associated Press.
    What is the Tren de Aragua gang, linked to several crimes in US?

    “The United States will pay a very low fee for them, but a high one for us,” Salvadoran President Nayib Bukele said in comments on X that accompanied government video of the high-security exchange.

    In the footage, shackled prisoners are seen stumbling forward as heavily armed officers push them along.

    Detainees’ wrists, ankles and waists are tightly bound, forcing them to shuffle in short, restricted steps. On the tarmac, riot police stand shoulder to shoulder, gripping their batons as helicopters hover overhead, scanning for any disturbances.

    Serves them right, I think.

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 18 Mar 2025, 20:14 last edited by
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      Here’s the thing, I’m willing to let the courts decide on the legality of Trump’s use of the old Foreign Enemy Law, but in general, this is still an 80/20 issue. The public want them out of the country, and so even a legal win by the Democrats on this is a political loss. Not that I believe that should be a determining factor, but there is a cost to this.

      The Brad

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 18 Mar 2025, 20:22 last edited by jon-nyc
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        But a win by people who believe in the rule of law (not all of us are Democrats) wouldn’t stop them from being deported it would just put a wee bit of due process in there.

        Right now there nothing to stop Trump from sending you to a concentration camp in El Salvador. At no point is there any process whatsoever that would allow you to say to any magistrate ‘but I was born in Pennsylvania and I can prove it FFS’.

        Only non-witches get due process.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 18 Mar 2025, 23:23 last edited by
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          The law is an ass.

          On this issue, don't you think the judges aren't considering the political implications.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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          • J Jolly
            18 Mar 2025, 23:23

            The law is an ass.

            On this issue, don't you think the judges aren't considering the political implications.

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            xenon
            wrote on 18 Mar 2025, 23:57 last edited by
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            @Jolly said in Tren de Aragua:

            The law is an ass.

            We don’t have much more than that.

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              18 Mar 2025, 23:23

              The law is an ass.

              On this issue, don't you think the judges aren't considering the political implications.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 19 Mar 2025, 00:42 last edited by
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              @Jolly said in Tren de Aragua:

              The law is an ass.

              On this issue, don't you think the judges aren't considering the political implications.

              No way scotus lets the 1802 law be used for immigrants. Neither text, history, nor tradition support it. 7-2 decision is my guess. If it even comes to that.

              Only non-witches get due process.

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                Horace
                wrote on 25 Mar 2025, 23:02 last edited by
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                Bill Barr agrees with the Trump admin

                https://www.foxnews.com/media/former-ag-bill-barr-blasts-judges-usurping-trumps-national-security-authority-deportation-flights

                Education is extremely important.

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 25 Mar 2025, 23:10 last edited by
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                  WTF does Barr know? He's only been AG a couple of times...

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    25 Mar 2025, 23:10

                    WTF does Barr know? He's only been AG a couple of times...

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 26 Mar 2025, 00:23 last edited by
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                    @Jolly said in Tren de Aragua:

                    WTF does Barr know?

                    President Trump doesn't think much of him. LOL

                    "Wow! Former A.G. Bill Barr, ........... has just Endorsed me for President despite the fact that I called him 'Weak, Slow Moving, Lethargic, Gutless, and Lazy,'".

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                      Horace
                      wrote on 26 Mar 2025, 00:33 last edited by
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                      Bill Barr is educated, experienced, and accomplished. He is also correct, when he agrees with me.

                      Education is extremely important.

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