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  • HoraceH Horace

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Bolton:

    @Horace said in Bolton:

    If Fauci hadn't had a 6m/year SS detail, nobody would have raised an eyebrow. It's not an obvious thing that "of COURSE Fauci would have a 6m/year SS detail!". But news that Trump terminated this thing that nobody would have assumed existed, well, opportunistic shaming is opportunistic. Anyway, maybe GK's link is right, and it was already terminated under the Biden admin.

    It's amazing how quickly left-leaning people have learned of the inalienable right of public figures to have permanent 6m/year secret service details. I bet the thought had never crossed anybody's mind, until it played a role in shame dunking against orange man.

    I really don't mind them losing the details, but let's not try and pretend this isn't personal for your guy.

    I won't pretend that it can't be framed that way. I'd like to see a list of comparable people who Trump has allowed to keep the free bodyguards. I guess O'Brien is one. Is the list populated by Trump boot-lickers? That would be the narrative, so I'd like to see the list.

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
    #85

    @Horace said in Bolton:

    @Doctor-Phibes said in Bolton:

    @Horace said in Bolton:

    If Fauci hadn't had a 6m/year SS detail, nobody would have raised an eyebrow. It's not an obvious thing that "of COURSE Fauci would have a 6m/year SS detail!". But news that Trump terminated this thing that nobody would have assumed existed, well, opportunistic shaming is opportunistic. Anyway, maybe GK's link is right, and it was already terminated under the Biden admin.

    It's amazing how quickly left-leaning people have learned of the inalienable right of public figures to have permanent 6m/year secret service details. I bet the thought had never crossed anybody's mind, until it played a role in shame dunking against orange man.

    I really don't mind them losing the details, but let's not try and pretend this isn't personal for your guy.

    I won't pretend that it can't be framed that way. I'd like to see a list of comparable people who Trump has allowed to keep the free bodyguards. I guess O'Brien is one. Is the list populated by Trump boot-lickers? That would be the narrative, so I'd like to see the list.

    Do you honestly think a detailed analysis is needed? Everybody can see how personally your man takes everything. It's actually pretty funny. I'll save my outrage for later. I'm sure something will crop up.

    I was only joking

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @Horace said in Bolton:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Bolton:

      @Horace said in Bolton:

      If Fauci hadn't had a 6m/year SS detail, nobody would have raised an eyebrow. It's not an obvious thing that "of COURSE Fauci would have a 6m/year SS detail!". But news that Trump terminated this thing that nobody would have assumed existed, well, opportunistic shaming is opportunistic. Anyway, maybe GK's link is right, and it was already terminated under the Biden admin.

      It's amazing how quickly left-leaning people have learned of the inalienable right of public figures to have permanent 6m/year secret service details. I bet the thought had never crossed anybody's mind, until it played a role in shame dunking against orange man.

      I really don't mind them losing the details, but let's not try and pretend this isn't personal for your guy.

      I won't pretend that it can't be framed that way. I'd like to see a list of comparable people who Trump has allowed to keep the free bodyguards. I guess O'Brien is one. Is the list populated by Trump boot-lickers? That would be the narrative, so I'd like to see the list.

      Do you honestly think a detailed analysis is needed? Everybody can see how personally your man takes everything. It's actually pretty funny. I'll save my outrage for later. I'm sure something will crop up.

      HoraceH Online
      HoraceH Online
      Horace
      wrote on last edited by
      #86

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Bolton:

      @Horace said in Bolton:

      @Doctor-Phibes said in Bolton:

      @Horace said in Bolton:

      If Fauci hadn't had a 6m/year SS detail, nobody would have raised an eyebrow. It's not an obvious thing that "of COURSE Fauci would have a 6m/year SS detail!". But news that Trump terminated this thing that nobody would have assumed existed, well, opportunistic shaming is opportunistic. Anyway, maybe GK's link is right, and it was already terminated under the Biden admin.

      It's amazing how quickly left-leaning people have learned of the inalienable right of public figures to have permanent 6m/year secret service details. I bet the thought had never crossed anybody's mind, until it played a role in shame dunking against orange man.

      I really don't mind them losing the details, but let's not try and pretend this isn't personal for your guy.

      I won't pretend that it can't be framed that way. I'd like to see a list of comparable people who Trump has allowed to keep the free bodyguards. I guess O'Brien is one. Is the list populated by Trump boot-lickers? That would be the narrative, so I'd like to see the list.

      Do you honestly think a detailed analysis is needed? Everybody can see how personally your man takes everything. It's actually pretty funny.

      I think people underestimate him in general. Of course there's some truth to that perception, but in the telling, it gets hyperbolic.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Bolton:

        @Horace said in Bolton:

        @Doctor-Phibes said in Bolton:

        @Horace said in Bolton:

        If Fauci hadn't had a 6m/year SS detail, nobody would have raised an eyebrow. It's not an obvious thing that "of COURSE Fauci would have a 6m/year SS detail!". But news that Trump terminated this thing that nobody would have assumed existed, well, opportunistic shaming is opportunistic. Anyway, maybe GK's link is right, and it was already terminated under the Biden admin.

        It's amazing how quickly left-leaning people have learned of the inalienable right of public figures to have permanent 6m/year secret service details. I bet the thought had never crossed anybody's mind, until it played a role in shame dunking against orange man.

        I really don't mind them losing the details, but let's not try and pretend this isn't personal for your guy.

        I won't pretend that it can't be framed that way. I'd like to see a list of comparable people who Trump has allowed to keep the free bodyguards. I guess O'Brien is one. Is the list populated by Trump boot-lickers? That would be the narrative, so I'd like to see the list.

        Do you honestly think a detailed analysis is needed? Everybody can see how personally your man takes everything. It's actually pretty funny.

        I think people underestimate him in general. Of course there's some truth to that perception, but in the telling, it gets hyperbolic.

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        Doctor Phibes
        wrote on last edited by
        #87

        @Horace said in Bolton:

        I think people underestimate him in general.

        Some people may do. Others, it has to be said, give him way, way too much credit.

        I was only joking

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          Jolly
          wrote on last edited by
          #88

          Sometimes.

          But you have to admit, he may have had the best first week in many years.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            HoraceH Online
            Horace
            wrote on last edited by
            #89

            Heard David French on a podcast today: "In a just society, Donald Trump would be brought up on charges if anything happens to any of the people he's removed security from". Talk about no limiting principle. On the contrary, apparently there's a principle to keep free bodyguards on all controversial ex-government figures in perpetuity, with legal exposure for any president who doesn't follow that principle.

            Also in that episode, they mused that Trump's spite knows almost no bounds, since Pompeo is known to be a Trump advocate. (I've heard Tucker call him an absolute ass-licker). From this, they extrapolate that Trump's spite must have been triggered by something infinitesimal. It never occurred that these revocations of free bodyguards are just a house-cleaning for a government benefit that doesn't actually make sense.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cvg49jz7v8no

              President Donald Trump has revoked security protection for former top US health official Anthony Fauci, who has faced death threats since leading the country's Covid-19 response.

              "You can't have a security detail for the rest of your life because you work for government," Trump told reporters, when asked about the decision on Friday. "It's very standard."

              This week, Trump also revoked security protections for his former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, his former National Security Adviser John Bolton and former envoy Brian Hook, who all faced threats from Iran.

              Dr Fauci has now hired his own private security team that he will pay for himself, US media report.

              Asked whether he felt responsible for the officials' safety, Trump said on Friday: "They all made a lot of money. They can hire their own security too."

              Dr Fauci was previously protected by federal marshals, and then a private security company, which was paid for by the government, according to the New York Times.

              One of Dr Fauci's most vocal Republican critics, Kentucky Senator Rand Paul, had called for his security to be revoked.

              He wrote in a post on X on Thursday that he had "sent supporting information to end the 24 hr a day limo and security detail for Fauci".

              "I wish him nothing but peace but he needs to pay for his own limos," he said.

              Trump has also revoked the security clearances of 51 intelligence officials who had claimed that Hunter Biden's laptop had "all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation."

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              taiwan_girl
              wrote on last edited by
              #90

              @Doctor-Phibes said in Bolton:

              "You can't have a security detail for the rest of your life because you work for government," Trump told reporters, when asked about the decision on Friday. "It's very standard."

              Did President Trump have government provided security after he left the president office? 🤔

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Bolton:

                "You can't have a security detail for the rest of your life because you work for government," Trump told reporters, when asked about the decision on Friday. "It's very standard."

                Did President Trump have government provided security after he left the president office? 🤔

                HoraceH Online
                HoraceH Online
                Horace
                wrote on last edited by
                #91

                @taiwan_girl said in Bolton:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in Bolton:

                "You can't have a security detail for the rest of your life because you work for government," Trump told reporters, when asked about the decision on Friday. "It's very standard."

                Did President Trump have government provided security after he left the president office? 🤔

                Yes, ex-presidents get SS protection for life, by law.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @taiwan_girl said in Bolton:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Bolton:

                  "You can't have a security detail for the rest of your life because you work for government," Trump told reporters, when asked about the decision on Friday. "It's very standard."

                  Did President Trump have government provided security after he left the president office? 🤔

                  Yes, ex-presidents get SS protection for life, by law.

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                  taiwan_girl
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #92

                  @Horace said in Bolton:

                  @taiwan_girl said in Bolton:

                  @Doctor-Phibes said in Bolton:

                  "You can't have a security detail for the rest of your life because you work for government," Trump told reporters, when asked about the decision on Friday. "It's very standard."

                  Did President Trump have government provided security after he left the president office? 🤔

                  Yes, ex-presidents get SS protection for life, by law.

                  I was actually trying to be sarcastic. 🙂

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on last edited by taiwan_girl
                    #93

                    As good a place as any to put this.

                    https://apnews.com/article/hunter-biden-trump-secret-service-ashley-50eba3fcd1ef9d2580fb4bc464d229f6

                    President Donald Trump said Monday he was ending “immediately” the Secret Service protection details assigned to Democrat Joe Biden’s adult children, which the former president had extended to July shortly before leaving office in January.

                    and

                    Former presidents and their spouses receive life-long Secret Service protection under federal law, but the protection afforded to their immediate families over the age of 16 ends when they leave office. But outgoing presidents can extend protection for those who might otherwise not be eligible for up to six months after they leave office, something Biden did for his children and Trump did for his family after leaving office in 2021. Former Presidents Barack Obama and George W. Bush also extended protection for their families for a period.

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                      xenon
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #94

                      Is it normal to announce this?

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #95

                        The announcement is the point.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #96

                          Hunter has a detail of 18 agents, all of which he took to South Africa.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            89th
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #97

                            It's cute you believe a number Trump made up.

                            But the petulant child needs to bully. "When they go low, we'll go even lower" should be his motto. Good role model!

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                            • JollyJ Offline
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                              Jolly
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #98

                              I didn't get that number from Trump, lad.

                              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #99

                                BTW, it's 30 agents, total. 13 for Ashley, 17 for Hunter. Sorry that I was off by one on Hunter.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #100

                                  Where did you get the number from? I only saw references to Trump saying hunter "had up to 18 agents" in South Africa with him.

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