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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    #14

    Medicare is 2.9% not 13%

    And did you do that? Did you put 13% of your income in stocks since you were 16?

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Maybe we are being too kind to worry about the post-retirement wellbeing of those too irresponsible or too undisciplined to constantly invest at least a tenth of their income in the stock market. Maybe we, the responsible and disciplined lot, should just stay in walled communities and let the irresponsible, undisciplined lot rot outside.

      Love thy neighbors, you say? We just defined those outside the wall as not neighbors.

      Bankrupted by some medical emergencies or chronic illness or accidents? Well you should have bought sufficient insurance for those things, for that would be the response thing to do.

      Insurance companies went insolvent and cannot pay your legitimate claims? Do not expect government backstop. You should have been responsible and disciplined enough to only buy realistically rated policies from solidly funded insurers.

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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        Medicare is 2.9% not 13%

        And did you do that? Did you put 13% of your income in stocks since you were 16?

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        LuFins Dad
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        #16

        @jon-nyc said in Elon Rift Begins:

        Medicare is 2.9% not 13%

        And did you do that? Did you put 13% of your income in stocks since you were 16?

        I just went with FICA as a whole. Notice that I also brought up Social Security Max Benefit?

        And I wasn’t calculating for myself, I was calculating for a person retiring this year. If they were 65, the 40 years of savings would have started at age 25.

        The Brad

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          Maybe we are being too kind to worry about the post-retirement wellbeing of those too irresponsible or too undisciplined to constantly invest at least a tenth of their income in the stock market. Maybe we, the responsible and disciplined lot, should just stay in walled communities and let the irresponsible, undisciplined lot rot outside.

          Love thy neighbors, you say? We just defined those outside the wall as not neighbors.

          Bankrupted by some medical emergencies or chronic illness or accidents? Well you should have bought sufficient insurance for those things, for that would be the response thing to do.

          Insurance companies went insolvent and cannot pay your legitimate claims? Do not expect government backstop. You should have been responsible and disciplined enough to only buy realistically rated policies from solidly funded insurers.

          JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #17

          @Axtremus said in Elon Rift Begins:

          Maybe we are being too kind to worry about the post-retirement wellbeing of those too irresponsible or too undisciplined to constantly invest at least a tenth of their income in the stock market. Maybe we, the responsible and disciplined lot, should just stay in walled communities and let the irresponsible, undisciplined lot rot outside.

          Love thy neighbors, you say? We just defined those outside the wall as not neighbors.

          Bankrupted by some medical emergencies or chronic illness or accidents? Well you should have bought sufficient insurance for those things, for that would be the response thing to do.

          Insurance companies went insolvent and cannot pay your legitimate claims? Do not expect government backstop. You should have been responsible and disciplined enough to only buy realistically rated policies from solidly funded insurers.

          A complete nanny state is best? I dunno, seems like we were still the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave before 1964.

          Let me tell you what I do see...Because of Medicaid and EMTALA, ED's are choked with patients who have "the card" and a case of the sniffles. That cost money for staffing and physical space. Because of the Medicaid card, many employers will not offer any kind of health benefits to lower paid workers, because they don't have to do that to attract labor.

          So Medicaid can be a double-edged sword in some cases.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            jon-nyc
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            #18

            Is there an income limit for Medicaid or is it an asset limit?

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              Is there an income limit for Medicaid or is it an asset limit?

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              #19

              @jon-nyc said in Elon Rift Begins:

              Is there an income limit for Medicaid or is it an asset limit?

              Medicaid? Yes. Medicare, no, but parts B and D base their premiums on your income.

              The Brad

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                jon-nyc
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                #20

                I’m just wondering what kind of job you can have and still qualify for Medicaid. I’m guessing it would have to be part time

                Only non-witches get due process.

                • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  89th
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                  #21

                  More from inside the meeting:

                  https://archive.is/YXRxy

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #22

                    Wow.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Is there an income limit for Medicaid or is it an asset limit?

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                      #23

                      @jon-nyc said in Elon Rift Begins:

                      Is there an income limit for Medicaid or is it an asset limit?

                      For a single person in Louisiana, approximately $18k/yr income.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • jon-nycJ Online
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                        jon-nyc
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                        #24

                        Maybe I’m thinking of Medicaid support for assisted living. I think that required having less than 1500 in assets or something back when Rachel’s grandfather was moved into a home.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          Depending on family size in CT, one could have a full time (lower paying) job and still received medicaid. There are/were different levels, some that the recipients would pay into.

                          When I was in high school, every once in a while the grandkids would have to get 'gifted' a modest amount of money. This had to do with with how much money was 'in danger' of being carried over in the bank due to the timing of the payouts of their social security and his work pension. Too much of a balance could apparently cause an issue with their Medicaid eligibility.

                          A couple people in their late 80's, of very limited function, on the verge of getting tossed because they had an extra thousand bucks in the bank. Weird.

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                            More from inside the meeting:

                            https://archive.is/YXRxy

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                            xenon
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                            #26

                            @89th said in Elon Rift Begins:

                            More from inside the meeting:

                            https://archive.is/YXRxy

                            The exchange ended with Mr. Trump telling Mr. Duffy that he had to hire people from M.I.T. as air traffic controllers. These air traffic controllers need to be “geniuses,” he said.

                            That’s such a Trump solution

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                                @89th said in Elon Rift Begins:

                                More from inside the meeting:

                                https://archive.is/YXRxy

                                The exchange ended with Mr. Trump telling Mr. Duffy that he had to hire people from M.I.T. as air traffic controllers. These air traffic controllers need to be “geniuses,” he said.

                                That’s such a Trump solution

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #28

                                @xenon said in Elon Rift Begins:

                                @89th said in Elon Rift Begins:

                                More from inside the meeting:

                                https://archive.is/YXRxy

                                The exchange ended with Mr. Trump telling Mr. Duffy that he had to hire people from M.I.T. as air traffic controllers. These air traffic controllers need to be “geniuses,” he said.

                                That’s such a Trump solution

                                No, but it's Trump hyperbole. I think everybody, including you, knew what he meant.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • jon-nycJ Online
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                                  jon-nyc
                                  wrote on last edited by jon-nyc
                                  #29

                                  Yeah, that’s fair. ‘From MIT’ is figurative not literal. It’s not like he’d be pissed if they hired engineers from University of Illinois or something.

                                  Only non-witches get due process.

                                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    More from inside the meeting:

                                    https://archive.is/YXRxy

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                                    #30

                                    @89th said in Elon Rift Begins:

                                    More from inside the meeting:

                                    https://archive.is/YXRxy

                                    Interesting article. I laughed to myself reading this part

                                    The exchange ended with Mr. Trump telling Mr. Duffy that he had to hire people from M.I.T. as air traffic controllers. These air traffic controllers need to be “geniuses,” he said.

                                    EDIT: I see that @xenon thought the same thing. 555

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                                      xenon
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                                      #31

                                      Must be pretty bad. From Truth Social

                                      ELON AND MARCO HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP. ANY STATEMENT OTHER THAN THAT IS FAKE NEWS!!! DJT

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                                        Jolly
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                                        #32

                                        BTW, who was the source for the story?

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                          xenon
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                                          #33

                                          Dunno. I didn’t make much of it until Trump’s tweet.

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