And y'all bitched about the pardons...
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https://www.wsj.com/us-news/law/jan-6-released-aftermath-7e8a57a4
Jan. 6 Rioters Argue Pardons Apply to Charges Including Murder Plot, Child Porn
Defendants argue that Trump pardons should absolve them of additional crimes, some discovered during investigations of the Capitol riotThere is Edward Kelley, who was pardoned for assaulting police at the U.S. Capitol, but who is now fighting another case. In November, a jury convicted him of conspiring to murder the Federal Bureau of Investigation agents who investigated his Jan. 6 participation, with evidence showing he had a “kill list” of targets.
Kelley now argues that conviction should be tossed out, too.
The Tennessee man believes that President Trump’s blanket pardon covering “offenses related to events that occurred at or near” the Capitol on Jan. 6 extends beyond that day.
Other defendants are similarly arguing they should be absolved of other alleged crimes, such as illegal gun possession and child pornography, discovered during Jan. 6 investigations
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A J6 pardon recipient is "arguing" that their child porn charges should be pardoned. Whatever exactly that means. I suspect it means nothing beyond that someone allegedly wants to make a legally incoherent case which will be destroyed in court, if it ever gets there.
Meanwhile, Biden actually released at least one actual child porn convict, if memory serves.
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@jon-nyc said in And y'all bitched about the pardons...:
Some people think pardoning child porn traffickers is a loss, just so you know.
I wish you some sunny days, warm enough for a good bike ride. Between your spittle-flecked posts about Trump and your obvious desire to destroy all things MAGA, you need a mental health day.
Or some Jesus.
️Live long and prosper.
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@jon-nyc said in And y'all bitched about the pardons...:
Some people think pardoning child porn traffickers is a loss, just so you know.
I wish you some sunny days, warm enough for a good bike ride. Between your spittle-flecked posts about Trump and your obvious desire to destroy all things MAGA, you need a mental health day.
Or some Jesus.
️Live long and prosper.
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I think you’re just frustrated because the vast majority of complaints about Trump from posters here in the last several weeks are about things you don’t have a good answer for, like talking up DOGE while ballooning the debt behind closed doors. And George isn’t here to Whatabout every post so it just sits there unanswered.
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I think you’re just frustrated because the vast majority of complaints about Trump from posters here in the last several weeks are about things you don’t have a good answer for, like talking up DOGE while ballooning the debt behind closed doors. And George isn’t here to Whatabout every post so it just sits there unanswered.
@jon-nyc I'm old enough to remember when you took exception to psychological deconstruction. But, I have no reason to expect the debt would be better under Harris. I understand your rhetoric is your reality, but I can promise you, you take it more seriously than anybody else. It's more of a constant stream of special pleading and double standards. Trump has not failed yet, not by a long shot, and I trust that the electorate will hold him and his party accountable if he does. Meanwhile, it will remain non-obvious why anybody would want to immerse themselves in a firehose of TDS from Twitter barfed onto this board.
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People can come and go as they please. Or you can just block me if you wish.
Only non-witches get due process.
- Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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I think what I see as a plus is Trump's ability to learn and adapt. While he was not my first choice and he is clearly flawed, this ability is huge in my eyes.
You simply cannot look at him and say he's dumb. He turned the nation's politics upside down in 2016. From 2021 through this year, he endured political persecution the likes of which have not been seen, at least in my knowledge of history. And now he's come in having a plan and hit the ground running like nothing we've ever seen.
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@jon-nyc said in And y'all bitched about the pardons...:
People can come and go as they please. Or you can just block me if you wish.
The kind of disagreements and rhetoric we've seen lately is nothing new. it was the foundational principle of TNCR.
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@jon-nyc said in And y'all bitched about the pardons...:
People can come and go as they please. Or you can just block me if you wish.
You say that, but if everybody left who finds your rage and bloodthirstiness tedious, you would have no more reason to post any of it. The feeling that you're upsetting people is the whole point.
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Now if this poor man could afford the best attornies like his dear leader, he wouldn't have seen 1 day in jail.
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Now if this poor man could afford the best attornies like his dear leader, he wouldn't have seen 1 day in jail.
@NobodySock said in And y'all bitched about the pardons...:
Now if this poor man could afford the best attornies like his dear leader, he wouldn't have seen 1 day in jail.
Thank you for making a great point!
Regardless of where one landed on the January 6 scale, the Just-us Department threw unlimited resources at people who could not afford to defend themselves effectively against a legal tsunami. Many of the convictions were not based on simple justice - after all, who gets months or years in jail for trespass? - but on vengeance and a burning desire to teach those ruffians who is actually in charge. Sign the plea deal or we'll bankrupt you, take your home away and turn your family out into the street.
“Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”
Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton
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@NobodySock said in And y'all bitched about the pardons...:
Now if this poor man could afford the best attornies like his dear leader, he wouldn't have seen 1 day in jail.
Thank you for making a great point!
Regardless of where one landed on the January 6 scale, the Just-us Department threw unlimited resources at people who could not afford to defend themselves effectively against a legal tsunami. Many of the convictions were not based on simple justice - after all, who gets months or years in jail for trespass? - but on vengeance and a burning desire to teach those ruffians who is actually in charge. Sign the plea deal or we'll bankrupt you, take your home away and turn your family out into the street.
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@NobodySock said in And y'all bitched about the pardons...:
Now if this poor man could afford the best attornies like his dear leader, he wouldn't have seen 1 day in jail.
Thank you for making a great point!
Regardless of where one landed on the January 6 scale, the Just-us Department threw unlimited resources at people who could not afford to defend themselves effectively against a legal tsunami. Many of the convictions were not based on simple justice - after all, who gets months or years in jail for trespass? - but on vengeance and a burning desire to teach those ruffians who is actually in charge. Sign the plea deal or we'll bankrupt you, take your home away and turn your family out into the street.
@Jolly said in And y'all bitched about the pardons...:
@NobodySock said in And y'all bitched about the pardons...:
Now if this poor man could afford the best attornies like his dear leader, he wouldn't have seen 1 day in jail.
Thank you for making a great point!
Regardless of where one landed on the January 6 scale, the Just-us Department threw unlimited resources at people who could not afford to defend themselves effectively against a legal tsunami. Many of the convictions were not based on simple justice - after all, who gets months or years in jail for trespass? - but on vengeance and a burning desire to teach those ruffians who is actually in charge. Sign the plea deal or we'll bankrupt you, take your home away and turn your family out into the street.
My point was the lack of justice on both ends of the spectrum. I am not discounting your post nor its validity, only pointing out something just as bad if not worse. Let's put the shoe on the other foot for a second. If Joe Biden had stayed in and lost the election but cried foul, that it was rigged, then staged a rally on January 6, 2025, telling his minions you have to fight if you want to keep your country, thus creating a bullrush to the Capitol where mayhem ensued. Then, deciding to carry off hundreds of this country's most classified documents home with him upon leaving the White House, how do you think you personally would have felt about his actions? And then seeing how his attornies use the system to delay delay delay justice?
