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  • D Doctor Phibes
    1 Feb 2025, 15:54

    @LuFins-Dad said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

    I will say that his stuff about the food dyes and some of the preservatives deserve a serious conversation.

    Yes, he occasionally hits a target. The American diet is something else we should all be thinking about.

    However, either he's seriously anti-vaccination, or he's cynically exploited people's fears in order to gain support. Neither alternative is good.

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    Renauda
    wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 17:28 last edited by
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    @Doctor-Phibes said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

    @LuFins-Dad said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

    I will say that his stuff about the food dyes and some of the preservatives deserve a serious conversation.

    Yes, he occasionally hits a target. The American diet is something else we should all be thinking about.

    However, either he's seriously anti-vaccination, or he's cynically exploited people's fears in order to gain support. Neither alternative is good.

    What RFK jr. is most authoritative and actually very lucid in his thinking is on water conservation and management. The Trump regime of course, won’t let him anywhere near that and have in fact effectively muzzled him on the sidelines.

    But as I have already stated RFK Jr. is not an optimal choice for portfolio to which he has been now confirmed. I am certain that he will prove to be just another of many distractions in the Trumpian sown chaos before us.

    Elbows up!

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      jon-nyc
      wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 17:30 last edited by jon-nyc 2 Jan 2025, 17:31
      #44

      To clarify, he hasn’t been confirmed yet. I’m not sure when the votes happen.

      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
      -Cormac McCarthy

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        Renauda
        wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 17:43 last edited by Renauda 2 Jan 2025, 17:47
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        @jon-nyc

        My mistake, I thought he received the green light late yesterday afternoon.

        Anyway the point of my post remains as is.

        Elbows up!

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        • J jon-nyc
          1 Feb 2025, 16:42

          @LuFins-Dad said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

          @jon-nyc said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

          I hope so too, assuming he's confirmed.

          I doubt he is. The head golf the committee is a physician with serious questions about Juniors views.

          Cassidy. Very skeptical. There’s actually two committees of jurisdiction, the other is the Senate Finance Committee who’s head, Mike Crapo, is not a physician but his brother is.

          I think the Turtle, Murkowski, and Collins will be no votes if there’s a fourth to make it stick.

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          Jolly
          wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 20:15 last edited by
          #46

          Cassidy is a doc, of course.

          But if he votes down RFK, I'll lay money he will not be running for reelection.

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            jon-nyc
            wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 20:24 last edited by
            #47

            He faces an uphill battle anyway for voting to convict Trump. Todays GOP is no place for a politician who puts principles above loyalty to Trump.

            The interesting thing is he was practically begging RFK to renounce the autism claim so he could vote for him. Kennedy wouldn’t.

            I won’t be remotely surprised if he is a no vote. But he’ll be yes out of committee.

            And I agree that the decision not to back RFK will be the decision not to seek reelection.

            But careful what you wish for, once he decides he’s not running for reelection he can vote his conscience from here on out.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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              Jolly
              wrote on 1 Feb 2025, 20:25 last edited by
              #48

              His nickname among the harder right folks down here is Psycho Bill...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • J Jolly
                1 Feb 2025, 20:25

                His nickname among the harder right folks down here is Psycho Bill...

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                Doctor Phibes
                wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 00:49 last edited by
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                @Jolly said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                His nickname among the harder right folks down here is Psycho Bill...

                I hate to think what they must call RFK

                I was only joking

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                • D Doctor Phibes
                  2 Feb 2025, 00:49

                  @Jolly said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                  His nickname among the harder right folks down here is Psycho Bill...

                  I hate to think what they must call RFK

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                  Jolly
                  wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 01:18 last edited by
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                  @Doctor-Phibes said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                  @Jolly said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                  His nickname among the harder right folks down here is Psycho Bill...

                  I hate to think what they must call RFK

                  Mr. Secretary?

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • J Jolly
                    1 Feb 2025, 15:50

                    @LuFins-Dad said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                    Before he was bought out by Trump, most normal conservatives (as opposed to whacky conspiracy theorists) admitted he was crazy. Now, apparently he's something else.

                    No, many of us still think he’s nuts and possibly dangerous. I will say that his stuff about the food dyes and some of the preservatives deserve a serious conversation. I mean, why the heck are they using dyes in ibuprofen, Benadryl, etc?

                    I think he's wrong in some of his views. Trump has already assured people he had a long talk with RFK on vaccines before nominating him. He's been told hands off, particularly in regard to the older, standard childhood vaccines.

                    OTOH, RFK has some views I agree with on sugar content, high fructose corn syrup, dyes in our food and medicine, population obesity and the cost of drugs in the U.S. vs. the rest of the world.

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                    taiwan_girl
                    wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:31 last edited by
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                    @Jolly said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                    RFK has some views I agree with on .....population obesity '

                    Maybe I am mistaken but wasnt there a lot of "pushback" from the Republic's against Michelle Obama when she started a campaign to make school lunches healthier? 🤔

                    https://www.newsweek.com/rfk-school-lunch-program-michelle-obama-republican-support-2023737

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                    • T taiwan_girl
                      2 Feb 2025, 19:31

                      @Jolly said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                      RFK has some views I agree with on .....population obesity '

                      Maybe I am mistaken but wasnt there a lot of "pushback" from the Republic's against Michelle Obama when she started a campaign to make school lunches healthier? 🤔

                      https://www.newsweek.com/rfk-school-lunch-program-michelle-obama-republican-support-2023737

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                      Jolly
                      wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 19:33 last edited by
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                      @taiwan_girl said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                      @Jolly said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                      RFK has some views I agree with on .....population obesity '

                      Maybe I am mistaken but wasnt there a lot of "pushback" from the Republic's against Michelle Obama when she started a campaign to make school lunches healthier? 🤔

                      https://www.newsweek.com/rfk-school-lunch-program-michelle-obama-republican-support-2023737

                      Lunch in the trash can is not a good use of tax dollars.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                      • T taiwan_girl
                        2 Feb 2025, 19:31

                        @Jolly said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                        RFK has some views I agree with on .....population obesity '

                        Maybe I am mistaken but wasnt there a lot of "pushback" from the Republic's against Michelle Obama when she started a campaign to make school lunches healthier? 🤔

                        https://www.newsweek.com/rfk-school-lunch-program-michelle-obama-republican-support-2023737

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                        jon-nyc
                        wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 23:33 last edited by
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                        @taiwan_girl

                        Yeah 4 pieces of broccoli was nanny state paternalism but wholesale reconfiguration of the food and beverage industry is America First. If you don’t get the difference it’s your deep state programming showing through.

                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                          jon-nyc
                          wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 23:35 last edited by jon-nyc 2 Feb 2025, 23:35
                          #54

                          Oh, and don’t point out that the uber-processed sodium bomb Michelle wanted to replace wouldn’t survive RFKs purge either. That could be considered a microaggression

                          "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                          -Cormac McCarthy

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                          • J jon-nyc
                            2 Feb 2025, 23:33

                            @taiwan_girl

                            Yeah 4 pieces of broccoli was nanny state paternalism but wholesale reconfiguration of the food and beverage industry is America First. If you don’t get the difference it’s your deep state programming showing through.

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                            Horace
                            wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 23:38 last edited by
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                            @jon-nyc said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                            wholesale reconfiguration of the food and beverage industry is America First.

                            Cite for this policy ambition?

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 23:39 last edited by
                              #56

                              He hasn’t any policies yet, just goals.

                              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                              -Cormac McCarthy

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 23:40 last edited by
                                #57

                                You think your average Trump supporter will get “healthy again” by banning FD&C yellow #5?

                                "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                -Cormac McCarthy

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                                • J jon-nyc
                                  2 Feb 2025, 23:39

                                  He hasn’t any policies yet, just goals.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 23:45 last edited by
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                                  @jon-nyc Your claims about his goals could use a cite, if you would like to make a distinction between "policy ambition" (my words) and "goals" (your word).

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    jon-nyc
                                    wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 23:56 last edited by
                                    #59

                                    He calls processed food poison, and he wants us to stop eating poison.

                                    Again he hasn’t talked about methods.

                                    "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                    -Cormac McCarthy

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                                    • J jon-nyc
                                      2 Feb 2025, 23:56

                                      He calls processed food poison, and he wants us to stop eating poison.

                                      Again he hasn’t talked about methods.

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                                      Horace
                                      wrote on 2 Feb 2025, 23:58 last edited by
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                                      @jon-nyc He's also said that if people want to eat badly, they should be allowed to. You are finding your truths in a curated subset of his words, and extrapolating from them beyond anything he's ever said.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                      • J Jolly
                                        2 Feb 2025, 19:33

                                        @taiwan_girl said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                                        @Jolly said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                                        RFK has some views I agree with on .....population obesity '

                                        Maybe I am mistaken but wasnt there a lot of "pushback" from the Republic's against Michelle Obama when she started a campaign to make school lunches healthier? 🤔

                                        https://www.newsweek.com/rfk-school-lunch-program-michelle-obama-republican-support-2023737

                                        Lunch in the trash can is not a good use of tax dollars.

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                                        jon-nyc
                                        wrote on 3 Feb 2025, 00:00 last edited by
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                                        @Jolly said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                                        @taiwan_girl said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                                        @Jolly said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                                        RFK has some views I agree with on .....population obesity '

                                        Maybe I am mistaken but wasnt there a lot of "pushback" from the Republic's against Michelle Obama when she started a campaign to make school lunches healthier? 🤔

                                        https://www.newsweek.com/rfk-school-lunch-program-michelle-obama-republican-support-2023737

                                        Lunch in the trash can is not a good use of tax dollars.

                                        My kid ate broccoli from the time he could chew and still does today. What do people feed their children in your neck of the woods?

                                        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                                        -Cormac McCarthy

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                                        • J jon-nyc
                                          3 Feb 2025, 00:00

                                          @Jolly said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                                          @taiwan_girl said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                                          @Jolly said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                                          RFK has some views I agree with on .....population obesity '

                                          Maybe I am mistaken but wasnt there a lot of "pushback" from the Republic's against Michelle Obama when she started a campaign to make school lunches healthier? 🤔

                                          https://www.newsweek.com/rfk-school-lunch-program-michelle-obama-republican-support-2023737

                                          Lunch in the trash can is not a good use of tax dollars.

                                          My kid ate broccoli from the time he could chew and still does today. What do people feed their children in your neck of the woods?

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                                          Doctor Phibes
                                          wrote on 3 Feb 2025, 00:55 last edited by
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                                          @jon-nyc said in They haven't spoken over a few hours in years.:

                                          My kid ate broccoli from the time he could chew and still does today.

                                          Communist.

                                          I was only joking

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