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  • 8 89th
    29 Jan 2025, 01:40

    Honestly I’m confused but ok

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 01:50 last edited by
    #11

    @89th said in 8 months of pay:

    Honestly I’m confused but ok

    Think of it this way, if your friends are thinking of taking the offer, I’m likely good with them staying.

    The Brad

    8 1 Reply Last reply 29 Jan 2025, 02:24
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      Mik
      wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 01:54 last edited by
      #12

      The ones who can easily move on are the ones who will take it.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        89th
        wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 02:21 last edited by
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        https://chcoc.gov/sites/default/files/OPM Guidance Memo re Deferred Resignation Program 1-28-2025.pdf

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          89th
          wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 02:22 last edited by
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          I believe that’s the mass email notice. Looks like you can get another job while getting paid to do nothing for the next 8 months. Double income!

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          • L LuFins Dad
            29 Jan 2025, 01:50

            @89th said in 8 months of pay:

            Honestly I’m confused but ok

            Think of it this way, if your friends are thinking of taking the offer, I’m likely good with them staying.

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            89th
            wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 02:24 last edited by
            #15

            @LuFins-Dad said in 8 months of pay:

            @89th said in 8 months of pay:

            Honestly I’m confused but ok

            Think of it this way, if your friends are thinking of taking the offer, I’m likely good with them staying.

            I see. You’re saying the people who think they have an important job but don’t really have one, are the ones that should go? (Makes sense, if so)

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              Jolly
              wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 03:02 last edited by
              #16

              This was an Elon idea, I believe.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • 8 89th
                29 Jan 2025, 00:32

                https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-administration-offer-federal-workers-buyouts-resign-rcna189661

                Read the whole thing. Crazy. You can just reply with “resign” and you get 8 months of pay and benefits.

                If it were me I’d take it and then just take a contractor position. Imagine if you’re about to move or have a kid, what a lucky bonus. For some at least.

                Gotta give credit for big ideas. Might not agree with them all but these are big moves we haven’t seen from presidents in a while.

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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 04:56 last edited by
                #17

                @89th said in 8 months of pay:

                Gotta give credit for big ideas.

                No, you actually fucking don't. Some folks with Medicaid are getting screwed over as of today due to this nonsense. My wife's office had to turn people away and if this doesn't get fixed soon, my sister-in-law and her daughter are SOL.

                Please love yourself.

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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 12:01 last edited by jon-nyc
                  #18

                  This seems to have no legal basis but there’s a chance the resignations will stick. I’d hold off, at least until it unfolds in court.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

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                  • J Jolly
                    29 Jan 2025, 03:02

                    This was an Elon idea, I believe.

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                    jon-nyc
                    wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 12:03 last edited by
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                    @Jolly said in 8 months of pay:

                    This was an Elon idea, I believe.

                    Even the email subject line was the same. But he was offering three months.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • J Jolly
                      29 Jan 2025, 03:02

                      This was an Elon idea, I believe.

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                      89th
                      wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 14:29 last edited by
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                      @Jolly said in 8 months of pay:

                      This was an Elon idea, I believe.

                      Yeah it's from his Twitter playbook. Even the email subject "fork in the road" that federal employees saw came from what he did at Twitter. Hopefully it's not all the same since Elon reneged on paying folks the severance packages they were promised. Although not paying your debts is from Trump's playbook, too.

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                      • A Aqua Letifer
                        29 Jan 2025, 04:56

                        @89th said in 8 months of pay:

                        Gotta give credit for big ideas.

                        No, you actually fucking don't. Some folks with Medicaid are getting screwed over as of today due to this nonsense. My wife's office had to turn people away and if this doesn't get fixed soon, my sister-in-law and her daughter are SOL.

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                        LuFins Dad
                        wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 15:16 last edited by
                        #21

                        @Aqua-Letifer said in 8 months of pay:

                        @89th said in 8 months of pay:

                        Gotta give credit for big ideas.

                        No, you actually fucking don't. Some folks with Medicaid are getting screwed over as of today due to this nonsense. My wife's office had to turn people away and if this doesn't get fixed soon, my sister-in-law and her daughter are SOL.

                        This is about the RTO order, not the spending freeze. But on that issue, this is sounding quite a lot like the “malicious enforcement” thing like when somebody removed the Tuskagee Airmen from the website.

                        I’m sure that @Jolly @George-K and @Mik will know more than me, but it’s my understanding that the Federal Government does not fund the portal on a daily or even weekly basis, the funds set aside for Medicaid are already set aside and do not count as new funding. Somebody in the government (probably somebody not considering the resignation offer) proceeded to shut down the already funded portal. The portal was restored yesterday, but is now acting buggy. It’s worth noting that the administration as well as many state officials were on the record yesterday stating that the freeze would not affect Medicaid or Head Start.

                        The Brad

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                        • 8 89th
                          29 Jan 2025, 00:32

                          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-administration-offer-federal-workers-buyouts-resign-rcna189661

                          Read the whole thing. Crazy. You can just reply with “resign” and you get 8 months of pay and benefits.

                          If it were me I’d take it and then just take a contractor position. Imagine if you’re about to move or have a kid, what a lucky bonus. For some at least.

                          Gotta give credit for big ideas. Might not agree with them all but these are big moves we haven’t seen from presidents in a while.

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                          NobodySock
                          wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 17:05 last edited by
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                          @89th said in 8 months of pay:

                          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-administration-offer-federal-workers-buyouts-resign-rcna189661

                          Read the whole thing. Crazy. You can just reply with “resign” and you get 8 months of pay and benefits.

                          If it were me I’d take it and then just take a contractor position. Imagine if you’re about to move or have a kid, what a lucky bonus. For some at least.

                          Gotta give credit for big ideas. Might not agree with them all but these are big moves we haven’t seen from presidents in a while.

                          sounds good but there is a hiring freeze right now but who knows for how long. my original retirement date was going to be 12/31/25 but now with this new offer, I think i can bump it up to 9/30/25. it sure sounds nice on paper but I think I will give it a few more days before I reply to my Fork in the Road email I received yesterday. The deadline as of now for decision is Feb 6.

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                            NobodySock
                            wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 17:10 last edited by
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                            oh just an fyi for those interested. You may have noticed that most fed employees choose the last day of a calendar year to retire. Why so? Because we are allowed to carry a maximum of 240 hours annual leave over to the next calendar year. If one had lets say 250 hours of this leave available at the end of the year, the government would simply erase 10 hours off your record. So with this in mind, one could enter their last year of work with 240 hours of leave and accumulate approximately 200 plus more hours during this last year and have over 440 hours total in retirement. This is cash money payed back to you at your current hourly rate. I am told though that there is a very harsh witholding performed on this amount to the tune of 40% which is absurd but obviously much returned back after doing taxes.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 17:17 last edited by
                              #24

                              What's the typical annual leave?

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • G George K
                                29 Jan 2025, 17:17

                                What's the typical annual leave?

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                                NobodySock
                                wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 17:43 last edited by
                                #25

                                @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

                                What's the typical annual leave?

                                Not sure what you are asking

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                                • N NobodySock
                                  29 Jan 2025, 17:43

                                  @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

                                  What's the typical annual leave?

                                  Not sure what you are asking

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                                  George K
                                  wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 18:08 last edited by
                                  #26

                                  @NobodySock said in 8 months of pay:

                                  @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

                                  What's the typical annual leave?

                                  Not sure what you are asking

                                  You said " we are allowed to carry a maximum of 240 hours annual leave."

                                  That's 6 weeks' vacation, assuming a 40 hour week.

                                  How much vacay is typical? I assume it varies with job title, position, etc.

                                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

                                  N J 2 Replies Last reply 29 Jan 2025, 19:12
                                  • L LuFins Dad
                                    29 Jan 2025, 15:16

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in 8 months of pay:

                                    @89th said in 8 months of pay:

                                    Gotta give credit for big ideas.

                                    No, you actually fucking don't. Some folks with Medicaid are getting screwed over as of today due to this nonsense. My wife's office had to turn people away and if this doesn't get fixed soon, my sister-in-law and her daughter are SOL.

                                    This is about the RTO order, not the spending freeze. But on that issue, this is sounding quite a lot like the “malicious enforcement” thing like when somebody removed the Tuskagee Airmen from the website.

                                    I’m sure that @Jolly @George-K and @Mik will know more than me, but it’s my understanding that the Federal Government does not fund the portal on a daily or even weekly basis, the funds set aside for Medicaid are already set aside and do not count as new funding. Somebody in the government (probably somebody not considering the resignation offer) proceeded to shut down the already funded portal. The portal was restored yesterday, but is now acting buggy. It’s worth noting that the administration as well as many state officials were on the record yesterday stating that the freeze would not affect Medicaid or Head Start.

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                                    Aqua Letifer
                                    wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 18:12 last edited by
                                    #27

                                    @LuFins-Dad said in 8 months of pay:

                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in 8 months of pay:

                                    @89th said in 8 months of pay:

                                    Gotta give credit for big ideas.

                                    No, you actually fucking don't. Some folks with Medicaid are getting screwed over as of today due to this nonsense. My wife's office had to turn people away and if this doesn't get fixed soon, my sister-in-law and her daughter are SOL.

                                    This is about the RTO order, not the spending freeze. But on that issue, this is sounding quite a lot like the “malicious enforcement” thing like when somebody removed the Tuskagee Airmen from the website.

                                    I’m sure that @Jolly @George-K and @Mik will know more than me, but it’s my understanding that the Federal Government does not fund the portal on a daily or even weekly basis, the funds set aside for Medicaid are already set aside and do not count as new funding. Somebody in the government (probably somebody not considering the resignation offer) proceeded to shut down the already funded portal. The portal was restored yesterday, but is now acting buggy. It’s worth noting that the administration as well as many state officials were on the record yesterday stating that the freeze would not affect Medicaid or Head Start.

                                    Could very well be malicious enforcement, but if that's so then someone needs to go to jail. A lot of people were turned away from their doctors' offices yesterday.

                                    Please love yourself.

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                                    • G George K
                                      29 Jan 2025, 18:08

                                      @NobodySock said in 8 months of pay:

                                      @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

                                      What's the typical annual leave?

                                      Not sure what you are asking

                                      You said " we are allowed to carry a maximum of 240 hours annual leave."

                                      That's 6 weeks' vacation, assuming a 40 hour week.

                                      How much vacay is typical? I assume it varies with job title, position, etc.

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                                      NobodySock
                                      wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 19:12 last edited by
                                      #28

                                      @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

                                      @NobodySock said in 8 months of pay:

                                      @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

                                      What's the typical annual leave?

                                      Not sure what you are asking

                                      You said " we are allowed to carry a maximum of 240 hours annual leave."

                                      That's 6 weeks' vacation, assuming a 40 hour week.

                                      How much vacay is typical? I assume it varies with job title, position, etc.

                                      One starts out earning 4 hours vacation every two weeks. After a certain amount if years, it bumps to 6 per pay period. And finallt tops out at 8 hours per pay period. Cant remember how many years service to get to magic 8. On top of this annual leave, everyone gets 4 hours per pay period for sick leave. One can accumulate as much of that as they want but it is not given back to the retiree as cash but added as time served.

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                                      • N NobodySock
                                        29 Jan 2025, 19:12

                                        @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

                                        @NobodySock said in 8 months of pay:

                                        @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

                                        What's the typical annual leave?

                                        Not sure what you are asking

                                        You said " we are allowed to carry a maximum of 240 hours annual leave."

                                        That's 6 weeks' vacation, assuming a 40 hour week.

                                        How much vacay is typical? I assume it varies with job title, position, etc.

                                        One starts out earning 4 hours vacation every two weeks. After a certain amount if years, it bumps to 6 per pay period. And finallt tops out at 8 hours per pay period. Cant remember how many years service to get to magic 8. On top of this annual leave, everyone gets 4 hours per pay period for sick leave. One can accumulate as much of that as they want but it is not given back to the retiree as cash but added as time served.

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                                        NobodySock
                                        wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 19:21 last edited by
                                        #29

                                        So obviously, it is my intention to save as much annual leave as possible this year before I retire, but now it may be cut short by three months as well as an intended recon trip to Sardinia this May to determine if this is truly the place for me that’s gonna burn 120 hours right there . But I have heard rumor that I should be able to use 120 hours of the sick leave pot for this, but don’t hold me to it. I need to find out.

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                                        • G George K
                                          29 Jan 2025, 18:08

                                          @NobodySock said in 8 months of pay:

                                          @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

                                          What's the typical annual leave?

                                          Not sure what you are asking

                                          You said " we are allowed to carry a maximum of 240 hours annual leave."

                                          That's 6 weeks' vacation, assuming a 40 hour week.

                                          How much vacay is typical? I assume it varies with job title, position, etc.

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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 19:38 last edited by
                                          #30

                                          @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

                                          @NobodySock said in 8 months of pay:

                                          @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

                                          What's the typical annual leave?

                                          Not sure what you are asking

                                          You said " we are allowed to carry a maximum of 240 hours annual leave."

                                          That's 6 weeks' vacation, assuming a 40 hour week.

                                          How much vacay is typical? I assume it varies with job title, position, etc.

                                          I had an offer from the VA. Leave is why I worked for Louisiana. When I retired, they paid me for 300 hours of vacation leave. Then they combined my sick leave and the rest of my vacation leave, and rolled it into my retirement as service time.

                                          All 4 years of it.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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