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  • L LuFins Dad
    29 Jan 2025, 00:45

    @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

    Do you think 10% will take the offer?

    Yes. But it’s the next 10% that’s critical to get rid of. Those that are in it to make a difference. They’ll ignore the offer, but they are the ones that got to go…

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    89th
    wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 00:49 last edited by
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    @LuFins-Dad said in 8 months of pay:

    @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

    Do you think 10% will take the offer?

    Yes. But it’s the next 10% that’s critical to get rid of. Those that are in it to make a difference. They’ll ignore the offer, but they are the ones that got to go…

    The ones that are there to make a difference need to go?

    I think the 10% that take it are already one foot out the door. Not sure this will make much of a dent. $100 billion? Ok that’s like 3 months of national debt. Plus the cost to fill and train those positions that have an impact being vacant will probably result in a net zero in savings. Still, big moves…I can respect it!

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    • 8 89th
      29 Jan 2025, 00:49

      @LuFins-Dad said in 8 months of pay:

      @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

      Do you think 10% will take the offer?

      Yes. But it’s the next 10% that’s critical to get rid of. Those that are in it to make a difference. They’ll ignore the offer, but they are the ones that got to go…

      The ones that are there to make a difference need to go?

      I think the 10% that take it are already one foot out the door. Not sure this will make much of a dent. $100 billion? Ok that’s like 3 months of national debt. Plus the cost to fill and train those positions that have an impact being vacant will probably result in a net zero in savings. Still, big moves…I can respect it!

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      LuFins Dad
      wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 00:51 last edited by
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      @89th said in 8 months of pay:

      @LuFins-Dad said in 8 months of pay:

      @George-K said in 8 months of pay:

      Do you think 10% will take the offer?

      Yes. But it’s the next 10% that’s critical to get rid of. Those that are in it to make a difference. They’ll ignore the offer, but they are the ones that got to go…

      The ones that are there to make a difference need to go?

      I think the 10% that take it are already one foot out the door. Not sure this will make much of a dent. $100 billion? Ok that’s like 3 months of national debt. Plus the cost to fill and train those positions that have an impact being vacant will probably result in a net zero in savings. Still, big moves…I can respect it!

      God save me from the person from the government that is here to help…

      The Brad

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        89th
        wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 01:07 last edited by 89th
        #7

        I totally agree there’s a ton of bloat in the government. Mostly from folks who are impossible to fire, and the budget spending shenanigans, but there’s also hundreds of thousands of people performing very important jobs.

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          LuFins Dad
          wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 01:33 last edited by
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          There are many people performing important jobs. It’s the people that want to be there because they think they have important jobs that need to go.

          The Brad

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            89th
            wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 01:40 last edited by
            #9

            Honestly I’m confused but ok

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            • 8 89th
              29 Jan 2025, 00:45

              George-K said in 8 months of pay:

              Do you think 10% will take the offer?

              Wouldn’t be surprised. Most of my fed friends I’m talking with right now are strongly considering it. They want lawyers to review it though.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 01:40 last edited by
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              @89th said in 8 months of pay:

              They want lawyers to review it though.

              They don’t want to be unsecured creditors of Donald J Trump???

              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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              • 8 89th
                29 Jan 2025, 01:40

                Honestly I’m confused but ok

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                LuFins Dad
                wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 01:50 last edited by
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                @89th said in 8 months of pay:

                Honestly I’m confused but ok

                Think of it this way, if your friends are thinking of taking the offer, I’m likely good with them staying.

                The Brad

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 01:54 last edited by
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                  The ones who can easily move on are the ones who will take it.

                  "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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                    89th
                    wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 02:21 last edited by
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                    https://chcoc.gov/sites/default/files/OPM Guidance Memo re Deferred Resignation Program 1-28-2025.pdf

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                      89th
                      wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 02:22 last edited by
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                      I believe that’s the mass email notice. Looks like you can get another job while getting paid to do nothing for the next 8 months. Double income!

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                      • L LuFins Dad
                        29 Jan 2025, 01:50

                        @89th said in 8 months of pay:

                        Honestly I’m confused but ok

                        Think of it this way, if your friends are thinking of taking the offer, I’m likely good with them staying.

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                        89th
                        wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 02:24 last edited by
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                        @LuFins-Dad said in 8 months of pay:

                        @89th said in 8 months of pay:

                        Honestly I’m confused but ok

                        Think of it this way, if your friends are thinking of taking the offer, I’m likely good with them staying.

                        I see. You’re saying the people who think they have an important job but don’t really have one, are the ones that should go? (Makes sense, if so)

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                          Jolly
                          wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 03:02 last edited by
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                          This was an Elon idea, I believe.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • 8 89th
                            29 Jan 2025, 00:32

                            https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-administration-offer-federal-workers-buyouts-resign-rcna189661

                            Read the whole thing. Crazy. You can just reply with “resign” and you get 8 months of pay and benefits.

                            If it were me I’d take it and then just take a contractor position. Imagine if you’re about to move or have a kid, what a lucky bonus. For some at least.

                            Gotta give credit for big ideas. Might not agree with them all but these are big moves we haven’t seen from presidents in a while.

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                            Aqua Letifer
                            wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 04:56 last edited by
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                            @89th said in 8 months of pay:

                            Gotta give credit for big ideas.

                            No, you actually fucking don't. Some folks with Medicaid are getting screwed over as of today due to this nonsense. My wife's office had to turn people away and if this doesn't get fixed soon, my sister-in-law and her daughter are SOL.

                            Please love yourself.

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                              jon-nyc
                              wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 12:01 last edited by jon-nyc
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                              This seems to have no legal basis but there’s a chance the resignations will stick. I’d hold off, at least until it unfolds in court.

                              Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                              • J Jolly
                                29 Jan 2025, 03:02

                                This was an Elon idea, I believe.

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                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 12:03 last edited by
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                                @Jolly said in 8 months of pay:

                                This was an Elon idea, I believe.

                                Even the email subject line was the same. But he was offering three months.

                                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                                • J Jolly
                                  29 Jan 2025, 03:02

                                  This was an Elon idea, I believe.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 14:29 last edited by
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                                  @Jolly said in 8 months of pay:

                                  This was an Elon idea, I believe.

                                  Yeah it's from his Twitter playbook. Even the email subject "fork in the road" that federal employees saw came from what he did at Twitter. Hopefully it's not all the same since Elon reneged on paying folks the severance packages they were promised. Although not paying your debts is from Trump's playbook, too.

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                                  • A Aqua Letifer
                                    29 Jan 2025, 04:56

                                    @89th said in 8 months of pay:

                                    Gotta give credit for big ideas.

                                    No, you actually fucking don't. Some folks with Medicaid are getting screwed over as of today due to this nonsense. My wife's office had to turn people away and if this doesn't get fixed soon, my sister-in-law and her daughter are SOL.

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                                    LuFins Dad
                                    wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 15:16 last edited by
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                                    @Aqua-Letifer said in 8 months of pay:

                                    @89th said in 8 months of pay:

                                    Gotta give credit for big ideas.

                                    No, you actually fucking don't. Some folks with Medicaid are getting screwed over as of today due to this nonsense. My wife's office had to turn people away and if this doesn't get fixed soon, my sister-in-law and her daughter are SOL.

                                    This is about the RTO order, not the spending freeze. But on that issue, this is sounding quite a lot like the “malicious enforcement” thing like when somebody removed the Tuskagee Airmen from the website.

                                    I’m sure that @Jolly @George-K and @Mik will know more than me, but it’s my understanding that the Federal Government does not fund the portal on a daily or even weekly basis, the funds set aside for Medicaid are already set aside and do not count as new funding. Somebody in the government (probably somebody not considering the resignation offer) proceeded to shut down the already funded portal. The portal was restored yesterday, but is now acting buggy. It’s worth noting that the administration as well as many state officials were on the record yesterday stating that the freeze would not affect Medicaid or Head Start.

                                    The Brad

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                                    • 8 89th
                                      29 Jan 2025, 00:32

                                      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-administration-offer-federal-workers-buyouts-resign-rcna189661

                                      Read the whole thing. Crazy. You can just reply with “resign” and you get 8 months of pay and benefits.

                                      If it were me I’d take it and then just take a contractor position. Imagine if you’re about to move or have a kid, what a lucky bonus. For some at least.

                                      Gotta give credit for big ideas. Might not agree with them all but these are big moves we haven’t seen from presidents in a while.

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                                      NobodySock
                                      wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 17:05 last edited by
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                                      @89th said in 8 months of pay:

                                      https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-administration-offer-federal-workers-buyouts-resign-rcna189661

                                      Read the whole thing. Crazy. You can just reply with “resign” and you get 8 months of pay and benefits.

                                      If it were me I’d take it and then just take a contractor position. Imagine if you’re about to move or have a kid, what a lucky bonus. For some at least.

                                      Gotta give credit for big ideas. Might not agree with them all but these are big moves we haven’t seen from presidents in a while.

                                      sounds good but there is a hiring freeze right now but who knows for how long. my original retirement date was going to be 12/31/25 but now with this new offer, I think i can bump it up to 9/30/25. it sure sounds nice on paper but I think I will give it a few more days before I reply to my Fork in the Road email I received yesterday. The deadline as of now for decision is Feb 6.

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                                        NobodySock
                                        wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 17:10 last edited by
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                                        oh just an fyi for those interested. You may have noticed that most fed employees choose the last day of a calendar year to retire. Why so? Because we are allowed to carry a maximum of 240 hours annual leave over to the next calendar year. If one had lets say 250 hours of this leave available at the end of the year, the government would simply erase 10 hours off your record. So with this in mind, one could enter their last year of work with 240 hours of leave and accumulate approximately 200 plus more hours during this last year and have over 440 hours total in retirement. This is cash money payed back to you at your current hourly rate. I am told though that there is a very harsh witholding performed on this amount to the tune of 40% which is absurd but obviously much returned back after doing taxes.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 29 Jan 2025, 17:17 last edited by
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                                          What's the typical annual leave?

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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