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  • CopperC Offline
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    100,000 jobs, almost immediately

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    • taiwan_girlT Online
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      taiwan_girl
      wrote on last edited by
      #8

      How much was the internet expansion supposed to cost by President Biden?

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        Big difference...Biden produced nothing. Oracle is already building a 500,000 sqft building in Abilene, with more to follow.

        Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          Big difference...Biden produced nothing. Oracle is already building a 500,000 sqft building in Abilene, with more to follow.

          Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

          taiwan_girlT Online
          taiwan_girlT Online
          taiwan_girl
          wrote on last edited by
          #10

          @Jolly said in Stargate!:

          Oracle is already building a 500,000 sqft building in Abilene, with more to follow.

          Thank you president Biden!!!

          1. Just kidding. Mega projects by companies takes years and usually span multiple presidents.

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          • CopperC Copper

            100,000 jobs, almost immediately

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            #11

            @Copper said in Stargate!:

            100,000 jobs, almost immediately

            @George-K think the reporters have already started their Trump Lie tracker? Let's see if he beats the 30,573 lies told between 2017-2021.

            Of course, if 100,000 people have new jobs working for Stargate in the next 30 days, I'll happily eat my words. I'll print this page out and eat it and video tape it. Otherwise, just another lie. People are too used to his exaggerations that they don't even see it anymore.

            (And believe me, I think Trump for anything he's doing to push this concept along. Just wish he could avoid lies about it when he speaks)

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Big difference...Biden produced nothing. Oracle is already building a 500,000 sqft building in Abilene, with more to follow.

              Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

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              Axtremus
              wrote on last edited by Axtremus
              #12

              @Jolly said in Stargate!:

              Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

              More H-1B visas FTW!!!

              JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
              • AxtremusA Axtremus

                @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

                More H-1B visas FTW!!!

                JollyJ Offline
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                Jolly
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                #13

                @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

                More H1-B visas FTW!!!

                He talked about that. At length. Remember what he said?

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                • JollyJ Jolly

                  @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                  @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                  Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

                  More H1-B visas FTW!!!

                  He talked about that. At length. Remember what he said?

                  AxtremusA Offline
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                  Axtremus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #14

                  @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                  @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                  @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                  Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

                  More H1-B visas FTW!!!

                  He talked about that. At length. Remember what he said?

                  He said he likes very competent people coming into our country.

                  What do you remember he said?

                  JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                  • AxtremusA Axtremus

                    @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                    @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                    @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                    Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

                    More H1-B visas FTW!!!

                    He talked about that. At length. Remember what he said?

                    He said he likes very competent people coming into our country.

                    What do you remember he said?

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #15

                    @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                    @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                    @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                    @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                    Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

                    More H1-B visas FTW!!!

                    He talked about that. At length. Remember what he said?

                    He said he likes very competent people coming into our country.

                    What do you remember he said?

                    Did you watch the presser with the CEOs?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                    AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                      @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                      @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                      @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                      Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

                      More H1-B visas FTW!!!

                      He talked about that. At length. Remember what he said?

                      He said he likes very competent people coming into our country.

                      What do you remember he said?

                      Did you watch the presser with the CEOs?

                      AxtremusA Offline
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                      Axtremus
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                      #16

                      @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                      @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                      @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                      @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                      @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                      Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

                      More H1-B visas FTW!!!

                      He talked about that. At length. Remember what he said?

                      He said he likes very competent people coming into our country.

                      What do you remember he said?

                      Did you watch the presser with the CEOs?

                      Ha, it seems you either don't remember what he said, or you don't understand what he said so you cannot retell it, so you resort to evading the simple question.

                      JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        How much was the internet expansion supposed to cost by President Biden?

                        George KG Offline
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                        George K
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #17

                        @taiwan_girl said in Stargate!:

                        How much was the internet expansion supposed to cost by President Biden?

                        $45 billion, and zero connected.

                        Starlink, as we've discussed, could have done it at a fraction of the cost.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • AxtremusA Axtremus

                          @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                          @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                          @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                          @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                          @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                          Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

                          More H1-B visas FTW!!!

                          He talked about that. At length. Remember what he said?

                          He said he likes very competent people coming into our country.

                          What do you remember he said?

                          Did you watch the presser with the CEOs?

                          Ha, it seems you either don't remember what he said, or you don't understand what he said so you cannot retell it, so you resort to evading the simple question.

                          JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #18

                          @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                          @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                          @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                          @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                          @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                          @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                          Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

                          More H1-B visas FTW!!!

                          He talked about that. At length. Remember what he said?

                          He said he likes very competent people coming into our country.

                          What do you remember he said?

                          Did you watch the presser with the CEOs?

                          Ha, it seems you either don't remember what he said, or you don't understand what he said so you cannot retell it, so you resort to evading the simple question.

                          No, I watched it and I well remember what he said. I doubt you've even bothered to view the video.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

                          AxtremusA 1 Reply Last reply
                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                            @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                            @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                            @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                            @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                            @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                            Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

                            More H1-B visas FTW!!!

                            He talked about that. At length. Remember what he said?

                            He said he likes very competent people coming into our country.

                            What do you remember he said?

                            Did you watch the presser with the CEOs?

                            Ha, it seems you either don't remember what he said, or you don't understand what he said so you cannot retell it, so you resort to evading the simple question.

                            No, I watched it and I well remember what he said. I doubt you've even bothered to view the video.

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                            Axtremus
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #19

                            @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                            @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                            @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                            @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                            @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                            @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                            @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                            Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

                            More H1-B visas FTW!!!

                            He talked about that. At length. Remember what he said?

                            He said he likes very competent people coming into our country.

                            What do you remember he said?

                            Did you watch the presser with the CEOs?

                            Ha, it seems you either don't remember what he said, or you don't understand what he said so you cannot retell it, so you resort to evading the simple question.

                            No, I watched it and I well remember what he said.

                            So that leaves the possibility that you don't understand what he said, and thus cannot articulate what he said.

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Why would Trump announce this? Does the government have anything to do with it?

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #20

                              @jon-nyc said in Stargate!:

                              Why would Trump announce this? Does the government have anything to do with it?

                              Anyone has an answer to this yet?

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                              • jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nycJ Online
                                jon-nyc
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #21

                                So far the answer is no though he promises to help with the permitting.

                                You were warned.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Stargate!:

                                  How much was the internet expansion supposed to cost by President Biden?

                                  $45 billion, and zero connected.

                                  Starlink, as we've discussed, could have done it at a fraction of the cost.

                                  89th8 Offline
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                                  #22

                                  @George-K said in Stargate!:

                                  @taiwan_girl said in Stargate!:

                                  How much was the internet expansion supposed to cost by President Biden?

                                  $45 billion, and zero connected.

                                  Starlink, as we've discussed, could have done it at a fraction of the cost.

                                  Zero connected? What are you talking about. There are 2.4 million homes or businesses now connected to high speed internet since 2021.

                                  https://www.commerce.gov/news/blog/2024/09/biden-harris-administration-delivering-promise-connect-everyone-america-reliable

                                  That being said... I'm just being a fact checker here lol. Who knows if those 2.4 million places would've been connected to high speed internet anyway as it slowly rolls out to everywhere. Lots of grants approved, and all that bullshit but one thing (most of the time) that Trump can do much better is force the change... faster. That's what we need in the white house, and yes... I'm an Elon fan as well, his track record of delivering game-changing new technologies isn't even close to being matched in history.

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                                  • 89th8 89th

                                    @George-K said in Stargate!:

                                    @taiwan_girl said in Stargate!:

                                    How much was the internet expansion supposed to cost by President Biden?

                                    $45 billion, and zero connected.

                                    Starlink, as we've discussed, could have done it at a fraction of the cost.

                                    Zero connected? What are you talking about. There are 2.4 million homes or businesses now connected to high speed internet since 2021.

                                    https://www.commerce.gov/news/blog/2024/09/biden-harris-administration-delivering-promise-connect-everyone-america-reliable

                                    That being said... I'm just being a fact checker here lol. Who knows if those 2.4 million places would've been connected to high speed internet anyway as it slowly rolls out to everywhere. Lots of grants approved, and all that bullshit but one thing (most of the time) that Trump can do much better is force the change... faster. That's what we need in the white house, and yes... I'm an Elon fan as well, his track record of delivering game-changing new technologies isn't even close to being matched in history.

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                                    @89th said in Stargate!:

                                    Zero connected? What are you talking about. There are 2.4 million homes or businesses now connected to high speed internet since 2021.

                                    It was part of the "rural expansion" program. This, from 4 months ago.

                                    https://www.wsj.com/opinion/kamala-harris-joe-biden-broadband-internet-rollout-cox-communications-8acba576

                                    The 2021 infrastructure law included $42.5 billion for states to expand broadband to “unserved,” mostly rural, communities. Three years later, ground hasn’t been broken on a single project. The Administration recently said construction won’t start until next year at the earliest, meaning many projects won’t be up and running until the end of the decade.

                                    Blame the Administration’s political regulations. States must submit plans to the Commerce Department about how they’ll use the funds and their bidding process for providers. Commerce has piled on mandates that are nowhere in the law and has rejected state plans that don’t advance progressive goals.

                                    Take how the Administration is forcing providers to subsidize service for low-income customers. Commerce required that Virginia revise its plan so bidders had to offer a specified “affordable” price. This is rate regulation.

                                    Is the Wall Street Journal mistaken?

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                                      @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                                      @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                                      @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                                      @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                                      @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                                      @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                                      @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                                      Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

                                      More H1-B visas FTW!!!

                                      He talked about that. At length. Remember what he said?

                                      He said he likes very competent people coming into our country.

                                      What do you remember he said?

                                      Did you watch the presser with the CEOs?

                                      Ha, it seems you either don't remember what he said, or you don't understand what he said so you cannot retell it, so you resort to evading the simple question.

                                      No, I watched it and I well remember what he said.

                                      So that leaves the possibility that you don't understand what he said, and thus cannot articulate what he said.

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                                      @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                                      @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                                      @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                                      @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                                      @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                                      @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                                      @Axtremus said in Stargate!:

                                      @Jolly said in Stargate!:

                                      Trump was talking >$1T investment today. He wasn't specific on Federal input, other than streamlining all permit processes (including importing talent) and making sure these centers have adequate power.

                                      More H1-B visas FTW!!!

                                      He talked about that. At length. Remember what he said?

                                      He said he likes very competent people coming into our country.

                                      What do you remember he said?

                                      Did you watch the presser with the CEOs?

                                      Ha, it seems you either don't remember what he said, or you don't understand what he said so you cannot retell it, so you resort to evading the simple question.

                                      No, I watched it and I well remember what he said.

                                      So that leaves the possibility that you don't understand what he said, and thus cannot articulate what he said.

                                      Ok, dumbshit. You don't know and don't want to know.

                                      Remain ignorant, fool.

                                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                      • George KG George K

                                        @89th said in Stargate!:

                                        Zero connected? What are you talking about. There are 2.4 million homes or businesses now connected to high speed internet since 2021.

                                        It was part of the "rural expansion" program. This, from 4 months ago.

                                        https://www.wsj.com/opinion/kamala-harris-joe-biden-broadband-internet-rollout-cox-communications-8acba576

                                        The 2021 infrastructure law included $42.5 billion for states to expand broadband to “unserved,” mostly rural, communities. Three years later, ground hasn’t been broken on a single project. The Administration recently said construction won’t start until next year at the earliest, meaning many projects won’t be up and running until the end of the decade.

                                        Blame the Administration’s political regulations. States must submit plans to the Commerce Department about how they’ll use the funds and their bidding process for providers. Commerce has piled on mandates that are nowhere in the law and has rejected state plans that don’t advance progressive goals.

                                        Take how the Administration is forcing providers to subsidize service for low-income customers. Commerce required that Virginia revise its plan so bidders had to offer a specified “affordable” price. This is rate regulation.

                                        Is the Wall Street Journal mistaken?

                                        89th8 Offline
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                                        89th
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                                        #25

                                        @George-K said in Stargate!:

                                        @89th said in Stargate!:

                                        Zero connected? What are you talking about. There are 2.4 million homes or businesses now connected to high speed internet since 2021.

                                        It was part of the "rural expansion" program. This, from 4 months ago.

                                        https://www.wsj.com/opinion/kamala-harris-joe-biden-broadband-internet-rollout-cox-communications-8acba576

                                        The 2021 infrastructure law included $42.5 billion for states to expand broadband to “unserved,” mostly rural, communities. Three years later, ground hasn’t been broken on a single project. The Administration recently said construction won’t start until next year at the earliest, meaning many projects won’t be up and running until the end of the decade.

                                        Blame the Administration’s political regulations. States must submit plans to the Commerce Department about how they’ll use the funds and their bidding process for providers. Commerce has piled on mandates that are nowhere in the law and has rejected state plans that don’t advance progressive goals.

                                        Take how the Administration is forcing providers to subsidize service for low-income customers. Commerce required that Virginia revise its plan so bidders had to offer a specified “affordable” price. This is rate regulation.

                                        Is the Wall Street Journal mistaken?

                                        No probably not. Even the link I posted above just came off as throwing a bunch of numbers out there "grants! loans! money! permits!" as if they were trying to hide the actual number of rural folks who can now browse TITKOK in 4K.

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                                        • 89th8 89th

                                          @George-K said in Stargate!:

                                          @89th said in Stargate!:

                                          Zero connected? What are you talking about. There are 2.4 million homes or businesses now connected to high speed internet since 2021.

                                          It was part of the "rural expansion" program. This, from 4 months ago.

                                          https://www.wsj.com/opinion/kamala-harris-joe-biden-broadband-internet-rollout-cox-communications-8acba576

                                          The 2021 infrastructure law included $42.5 billion for states to expand broadband to “unserved,” mostly rural, communities. Three years later, ground hasn’t been broken on a single project. The Administration recently said construction won’t start until next year at the earliest, meaning many projects won’t be up and running until the end of the decade.

                                          Blame the Administration’s political regulations. States must submit plans to the Commerce Department about how they’ll use the funds and their bidding process for providers. Commerce has piled on mandates that are nowhere in the law and has rejected state plans that don’t advance progressive goals.

                                          Take how the Administration is forcing providers to subsidize service for low-income customers. Commerce required that Virginia revise its plan so bidders had to offer a specified “affordable” price. This is rate regulation.

                                          Is the Wall Street Journal mistaken?

                                          No probably not. Even the link I posted above just came off as throwing a bunch of numbers out there "grants! loans! money! permits!" as if they were trying to hide the actual number of rural folks who can now browse TITKOK in 4K.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
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                                          @89th said in Stargate!:

                                          Even the link I posted above just came off as throwing a bunch of numbers out there "grants! loans! money! permits!" as if they were trying to hide the actual number of rural folks who can now browse TITKOK in 4K.

                                          Exactly my point. Giving a grant to do something (Internet connectivity) is vastly different from plugging in the modem/router.

                                          Starlink could have done it on the cheap.

                                          $600 for equipment and $120 a month.

                                          https://www.pcmag.com/explainers/how-much-does-starlink-cost

                                          Assuming 17.7 million rural households in the US (that's the number ChatGPT gave me) , the cost to install Starlink in all of those would be about $10.6 billion.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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