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Mr. Clemency

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  • George KG Offline
    George KG Offline
    George K
    wrote on last edited by
    #81

    More piling on on the subject of hypocrisy:

    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1871216903953502547.html?utm_campaign=topunroll

    tl;dr - some murderers are more worthy of clemency than others, depending on their political usefulness.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • MikM Offline
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      Mik
      wrote on last edited by
      #82

      Like I said, a lifetime supply of Willie Hortons for Dem candidates. They will either have to stand up for these moves or condemn them. Neither position is anything they will want to adopt. The squirming will be delicious.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • jon-nycJ Offline
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        jon-nyc
        wrote on last edited by
        #83

        These guys are still in prison for life ineligible for parole. They’re not Willie Hortons.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #84

          Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • George KG Offline
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            George K
            wrote on last edited by
            #85

            I'm still curious about the metric that POTATUS used to decide which murderers are good enough to keep alive. Apparently baby-killing or witness murder is a get-out-of-the-chair-free card.

            From the guy who crafted a bill that was broad enough to imprison you for jaywalking.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • MikM Mik

              Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

              jon-nycJ Offline
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              jon-nyc
              wrote on last edited by
              #86

              @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

              Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

              Willie Horton was paroled and then killed someone. These guys are ineligible for parole and will leave jail feet first.

              Only non-witches get due process.

              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

                Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

                Willie Horton was paroled and then killed someone. These guys are ineligible for parole and will leave jail feet first.

                CopperC Offline
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                Copper
                wrote on last edited by
                #87

                @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                ineligible for parole

                1,124

                1,124 people sentenced to life without parole as children have been released since Montgomery v. Louisiana in 2016.

                https://cfsy.org/sentencing-children-to-life-without-parole-national-numbers/#:~:text=1%2C124 people sentenced to life,is down from 2%2C800 people.

                And the next time a democrat needs some votes, these numbers will go up.

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                • jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #88

                  I doubt any of the 37 are children.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • George KG Offline
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                    George K
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #89

                    LOL

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • jon-nycJ Offline
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                      jon-nyc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #90

                      Surprised it took over three weeks to find it.

                      Only non-witches get due process.

                      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                        @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

                        Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

                        Willie Horton was paroled and then killed someone. These guys are ineligible for parole and will leave jail feet first.

                        MikM Offline
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                        Mik
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #91

                        @jon-nyc said in Mr. Clemency:

                        @Mik said in Mr. Clemency:

                        Oh, yes. Yes, they are.

                        Willie Horton was paroled and then killed someone. These guys are ineligible for parole and will leave jail feet first.

                        Doesn’t matter. He circumvented the justice system and some really horrible, evil people will now live out their lives. It’s a perfect example of the Dem party’s lawlessness and every candidate for years will be required to either support or condemn it.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #92

                          I mean, if you're going to offer clemency, don't be half-assed about it.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            Mik
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #93

                            Jesus.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • George KG Offline
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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by George K
                              #94

                              What's the over/under that the Grifter-in-Chief will pardon his brother within the next 26 hours?

                              You know, the guy who was the subject of a criminal referral by Congress last summer.

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              • George KG Offline
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                                George K
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #95

                                Fauci
                                Milley
                                Jan 6 Committee members.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  89th
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #96

                                  Sad day to see that, but likely for different reasons depending on your view of Trump.

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                                  • George KG Offline
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                                    George K
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #97

                                    Fauci lied under oath to Congress.
                                    Milley made calls to China, saying "Don't worry, we won't let him."

                                    Yeah.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                    • LuFins DadL Offline
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                                      LuFins Dad
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #98

                                      Were these general “get out of jail free” cards regardless of what they did? If so, has that ever been taken to the courts?

                                      The Brad

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                                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                        Were these general “get out of jail free” cards regardless of what they did? If so, has that ever been taken to the courts?

                                        George KG Offline
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                                        George K
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #99

                                        @LuFins-Dad said in Mr. Clemency:

                                        Were these general “get out of jail free” cards regardless of what they did?

                                        Sounds like it. I believe Ford set the precedent.

                                        If so, has that ever been taken to the courts?

                                        That would be interesting. I suspect courts would affirm that POTUS pardon power is plenary so go away.

                                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        • George KG Offline
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                                          George K
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #100

                                          BTW: Kinsinger said (two weeks ago) he would not accept a pardon because it makes him "look guilty."

                                          "These are my principles, and if you don't like them, I have others."

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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