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Glad the free speech folks are in charge

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #31

    Remind me again ...At what point do they put you in jail during a civil case?

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      jon-nyc
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      #32

      Remind me again, lawfare fanboi, is imprisonment the only life altering punishment that exists?

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        Remind me again, lawfare fanboi, is imprisonment the only life altering punishment that exists?

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        Jolly
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        #33

        @jon-nyc said in Glad the free speech folks are in charge:

        Remind me again, lawfare fanboi, is imprisonment the only life altering punishment that exists?

        It's number one on the charts with a bullet. In some countries, literally.

        Right now, you're hyperventilating over anything Trump might do. When he has the FBI raid Biden's home, when he uses the Justice Department like a rapier against a political opponent and his supporters, when the Trump White House colludes with local DA's across the country to bring bogus charges -charges sometimes created out of bootstrapping dissimilar laws together in legal pretzel logic - you'll have a point.

        As for some of the current civil litigation by Trump against the media... I've spoken about Sullivan many, many times. It's bad law. It should have been overturned years ago. Politicians and public figures should enjoy the same standards for libel and defamation.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • JollyJ Offline
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          Jolly
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          #34

          Speaking of lawfare, here's the House report...

          https://judiciary.house.gov/media/press-releases/final-report-weaponization-federal-government

          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            jon-nyc
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            #35

            Nope, I’m just calling you out on your hypocrisy.

            Only non-witches get due process.

            • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              #36

              If you equate fairness with hypocrisy, so be it.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • jon-nycJ Offline
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                jon-nyc
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                #37

                Yeah, right.

                Only non-witches get due process.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  Jolly
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                  #38

                  Yeah. Right.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    jon-nyc
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                    #39

                    I guess it depends on your definition of fairness. Like if it includes billionaires filing expensive but frivolous lawsuits against middle class women in Iowa.

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
                      wrote on last edited by Jolly
                      #40

                      Normally, a person would say that's a crappy outlier poll and carry on.

                      But no, because of an election shot through with murkiness, bad practices and simple outright cheating, highly unusual acts become highly suspect. Get used to it. Much like Dingy Harry's disregard for long-standing Senate rules, Dems have shifted the paradigm.

                      THIS is the new reality. You may not like it, but you're going to live with it, and probably die with it. As will I.

                      If Trump has one over-reaching redeeming quality, it's as a catalyst. Maybe it's a reaction that's not for the best, but a lot of times, the end result is good. The end of overt election interference is good. The end of election cheating is good. The end of lawfare is good. The end of Justice Department persecution is good. The end of the "basement strategy" is good. The end of Sullivan will be wonderful.

                      You see no good, because of hate.

                      Well, as mama said, you've got the same pants to get glad in. On January 20th, Donald J. Trump will become the 47th POTUS.

                      The President of the United States and the President of Jon.

                      Enjoy! 😄😄

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        jon-nyc
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                        #41

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          jon-nyc
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                          #42

                          Quite a change of heart in just two weeks. Or maybe it’s just different when it’s his guys rather than some random government employee with a very DEI-ish title that he exposed to his 200+ million followers.

                          Only non-witches get due process.

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                            (To be clear, I’m not a fan of publicizing the names of federal workers in controversial areas whether it’s Elon doing it or a twitter rando, really just pointing out Elon’s hypocrisy here)

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              Only non-witches get due process.

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                              • JollyJ Offline
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                                Is anonymous synonymous with free speech?

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  NobodySock
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                                  #46

                                  Trump's own personal polls touted his winning New York and California. Can I sue?

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                                    #47

                                    Not having been born in the last three weeks, I’m old enough to remember when republicans didn’t think the White House’s job included policing its view of disinformation.

                                    Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      Free speech != free access to the white house press briefing room. I'm glad they have seats for "new press", and if they'd like to hold the AP accountable for being obstinate about the Gulf of America, ok by me. I don't mistake calling it "the Gulf of Mexico" for a principled stance. It is a child holding their breath.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #49

                                        The AP is an international news provider and its an international body of water. Only one country refers to it as 'Gulf of America', which is even a minority of those that touch its shores. Not to mention the rest of the world.

                                        If Cuba hand changed the name to 'Gulf of Fidel' would AP holding out be like a child holding their breath?

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #50

                                          When the WH spokesman says 'we're holding you accountable for speech we don't like' the first amendment is implicated.

                                          Only non-witches get due process.

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