UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot
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@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
He reviewed the unabomber's manifesto on amazon.
When communication fails you have to fight ‘to survive’. No, more like ‘when I can’t convince people of my vision I need to kill them to get my way’.
Not quite as noble sounding.
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Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.
Education is extremely important.
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Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.
@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.
Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point, or discuss it if they do?
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@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.
Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point, or discuss it if they do?
@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.
Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point?
The American health care system is an elephant in the room for everybody, and whatever McVeigh's concerns were (I recall something about the Waco siege), pale in comparison for their relatability.
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@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.
Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point?
The American health care system is an elephant in the room for everybody, and whatever McVeigh's concerns were (I recall something about the Waco siege), pale in comparison for their relatability.
@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.
Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point?
The American health care system is an elephant in the room for everybody, and whatever McVeigh's concerns were (I recall something about the Waco siege), pale in comparison for their relatability.
I'm not convinced that murdering people helps in a rational discussion of any cause. I'd honestly have been a lot more sympathetic to Irish nationalists in the north if the Provisional IRA hadn't killed quite so many people. For decades, the debate was all about the violence, and not the very real problems the Catholic minority were facing.
I was only joking
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@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.
Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point?
The American health care system is an elephant in the room for everybody, and whatever McVeigh's concerns were (I recall something about the Waco siege), pale in comparison for their relatability.
I'm not convinced that murdering people helps in a rational discussion of any cause. I'd honestly have been a lot more sympathetic to Irish nationalists in the north if the Provisional IRA hadn't killed quite so many people. For decades, the debate was all about the violence, and not the very real problems the Catholic minority were facing.
@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.
Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point?
The American health care system is an elephant in the room for everybody, and whatever McVeigh's concerns were (I recall something about the Waco siege), pale in comparison for their relatability.
I'm not convinced that murdering people helps in a rational discussion of any cause. I'd honestly have been a lot more sympathetic to Irish nationalists in the north if the Provisional IRA hadn't killed quite so many people. For decades, the debate was all about the violence, and not the very real problems the Catholic minority were facing.
Specifically targeted violence is very different from random terrorist violence.
Education is extremely important.
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@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.
Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point?
The American health care system is an elephant in the room for everybody, and whatever McVeigh's concerns were (I recall something about the Waco siege), pale in comparison for their relatability.
I'm not convinced that murdering people helps in a rational discussion of any cause. I'd honestly have been a lot more sympathetic to Irish nationalists in the north if the Provisional IRA hadn't killed quite so many people. For decades, the debate was all about the violence, and not the very real problems the Catholic minority were facing.
@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
I'm not convinced that murdering people helps in a rational discussion of any cause.
This reminds me of this scene, starting around the 2:00 mark. Hey, even sounds like you, DOC! (Scottish, close enough?)
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@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.
Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point?
The American health care system is an elephant in the room for everybody, and whatever McVeigh's concerns were (I recall something about the Waco siege), pale in comparison for their relatability.
I'm not convinced that murdering people helps in a rational discussion of any cause. I'd honestly have been a lot more sympathetic to Irish nationalists in the north if the Provisional IRA hadn't killed quite so many people. For decades, the debate was all about the violence, and not the very real problems the Catholic minority were facing.
Specifically targeted violence is very different from random terrorist violence.
@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Specifically targeted violence is very different from random terrorist violence.
The IRA killed plenty of specific targets - Airey Neave, Louis Mountbatten, Ross McWhirter, numerous politicians nobody over here has heard of.
You think blowing up the Conservative party conference hotel is untargeted?
I was only joking
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@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
That looks like an illegal alien.
Worse. A wop.
When Dago bad, Dago real bad.
@George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
That looks like an illegal alien.
Worse. A wop.
When Dago bad, Dago real bad.
Never buy Italian snow tires, because dago wop, wop, wop...
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@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Specifically targeted violence is very different from random terrorist violence.
The IRA killed plenty of specific targets - Airey Neave, Louis Mountbatten, Ross McWhirter, numerous politicians nobody over here has heard of.
You think blowing up the Conservative party conference hotel is untargeted?
@Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
Specifically targeted violence is very different from random terrorist violence.
The IRA killed plenty of specific targets - Airey Neave, Louis Mountbatten, Ross McWhirter, numerous politicians nobody over here has heard of.
You think blowing up the Conservative party conference hotel is untargeted?
Some successfully targeted attacks do not cancel out a bunch of random civilian deaths in other attacks, obviously.
Anyway, you can go ahead and believe the public will be sad about this murder next week, and that health insurance will be an afterthought. It'll just take a week to prove you wrong.
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It'll be Bragg prosecuting him. Watch him offer a plea deal with a single digit jail sentence.
@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
It'll be Bragg prosecuting him.
There are rumors of Federal Charges.
His term ends on Dec 31, 2025. Magnione won't see a courtroom before then.
Do you think he'll be re-elected?
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The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
It'll be Bragg prosecuting him.
There are rumors of Federal Charges.
His term ends on Dec 31, 2025. Magnione won't see a courtroom before then.
Do you think he'll be re-elected?
@George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
It'll be Bragg prosecuting him.
There are rumors of Federal Charges.
I suspect they'd need terrorism charges to do that. Which I think are appropriate.
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@George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
It'll be Bragg prosecuting him.
There are rumors of Federal Charges.
I suspect they'd need terrorism charges to do that. Which I think are appropriate.
@jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:
I suspect they'd need terrorism charges to do that.
Yeah, that's what I've heard.
Which I think are appropriate.
Howso? It was a targeted murder of a businessman, of course. How's that terrorism?
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I haven't taken a dive into what is purported "manifesto", but is it politically motivated?
The guy who was lurking at the golf course waiting for President-Elect Trump - would that qualify as terrorism? I would think so. Was he charged with that? I honestly don't know.
