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  • George KG George K

    @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

    That looks like an illegal alien.

    Worse. A wop.

    When Dago bad, Dago real bad.

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    @George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

    @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

    That looks like an illegal alien.

    Worse. A wop.

    When Dago bad, Dago real bad.

    Guinea break.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • HoraceH Horace

      He reviewed the unabomber's manifesto on amazon.

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      @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

      He reviewed the unabomber's manifesto on amazon.

      image.png

      When communication fails you have to fight ‘to survive’. No, more like ‘when I can’t convince people of my vision I need to kill them to get my way’.

      Not quite as noble sounding.

      You were warned.

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        Horace
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        #97

        Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

        Education is extremely important.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #98

          @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

          Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

          Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point, or discuss it if they do?

          I was only joking

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

            Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

            Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point, or discuss it if they do?

            HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            #99

            @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

            @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

            Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

            Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point?

            The American health care system is an elephant in the room for everybody, and whatever McVeigh's concerns were (I recall something about the Waco siege), pale in comparison for their relatability.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • HoraceH Horace

              @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

              @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

              Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

              Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point?

              The American health care system is an elephant in the room for everybody, and whatever McVeigh's concerns were (I recall something about the Waco siege), pale in comparison for their relatability.

              Doctor PhibesD Online
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              Doctor Phibes
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              #100

              @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

              @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

              @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

              Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

              Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point?

              The American health care system is an elephant in the room for everybody, and whatever McVeigh's concerns were (I recall something about the Waco siege), pale in comparison for their relatability.

              I'm not convinced that murdering people helps in a rational discussion of any cause. I'd honestly have been a lot more sympathetic to Irish nationalists in the north if the Provisional IRA hadn't killed quite so many people. For decades, the debate was all about the violence, and not the very real problems the Catholic minority were facing.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

                Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point?

                The American health care system is an elephant in the room for everybody, and whatever McVeigh's concerns were (I recall something about the Waco siege), pale in comparison for their relatability.

                I'm not convinced that murdering people helps in a rational discussion of any cause. I'd honestly have been a lot more sympathetic to Irish nationalists in the north if the Provisional IRA hadn't killed quite so many people. For decades, the debate was all about the violence, and not the very real problems the Catholic minority were facing.

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                Horace
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                #101

                @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

                Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point?

                The American health care system is an elephant in the room for everybody, and whatever McVeigh's concerns were (I recall something about the Waco siege), pale in comparison for their relatability.

                I'm not convinced that murdering people helps in a rational discussion of any cause. I'd honestly have been a lot more sympathetic to Irish nationalists in the north if the Provisional IRA hadn't killed quite so many people. For decades, the debate was all about the violence, and not the very real problems the Catholic minority were facing.

                Specifically targeted violence is very different from random terrorist violence.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • 89th8 Offline
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                  89th
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                  #102

                  OMG he lives 3 blocks away from me!

                  Kidding.

                  His house, though:

                  image.png

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                    @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                    @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                    Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

                    Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point?

                    The American health care system is an elephant in the room for everybody, and whatever McVeigh's concerns were (I recall something about the Waco siege), pale in comparison for their relatability.

                    I'm not convinced that murdering people helps in a rational discussion of any cause. I'd honestly have been a lot more sympathetic to Irish nationalists in the north if the Provisional IRA hadn't killed quite so many people. For decades, the debate was all about the violence, and not the very real problems the Catholic minority were facing.

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                    89th
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                    @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                    I'm not convinced that murdering people helps in a rational discussion of any cause.

                    This reminds me of this scene, starting around the 2:00 mark. Hey, even sounds like you, DOC! (Scottish, close enough?)

                    Link to video

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                      George K
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                      #104

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                        @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                        @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                        @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                        Just as a statement of practical effect, I think his act will move the conversation and concentrate the public's attention, in ways he wanted.

                        Maybe in the short term. Does anybody remember what Timothy McVeigh's agenda was at this point?

                        The American health care system is an elephant in the room for everybody, and whatever McVeigh's concerns were (I recall something about the Waco siege), pale in comparison for their relatability.

                        I'm not convinced that murdering people helps in a rational discussion of any cause. I'd honestly have been a lot more sympathetic to Irish nationalists in the north if the Provisional IRA hadn't killed quite so many people. For decades, the debate was all about the violence, and not the very real problems the Catholic minority were facing.

                        Specifically targeted violence is very different from random terrorist violence.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                        #105

                        @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                        Specifically targeted violence is very different from random terrorist violence.

                        The IRA killed plenty of specific targets - Airey Neave, Louis Mountbatten, Ross McWhirter, numerous politicians nobody over here has heard of.

                        You think blowing up the Conservative party conference hotel is untargeted?

                        I was only joking

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                        • George KG George K

                          @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                          That looks like an illegal alien.

                          Worse. A wop.

                          When Dago bad, Dago real bad.

                          JollyJ Offline
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                          Jolly
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                          @George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                          @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                          That looks like an illegal alien.

                          Worse. A wop.

                          When Dago bad, Dago real bad.

                          Never buy Italian snow tires, because dago wop, wop, wop...

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                            @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                            Specifically targeted violence is very different from random terrorist violence.

                            The IRA killed plenty of specific targets - Airey Neave, Louis Mountbatten, Ross McWhirter, numerous politicians nobody over here has heard of.

                            You think blowing up the Conservative party conference hotel is untargeted?

                            HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
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                            #107

                            @Doctor-Phibes said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                            @Horace said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                            Specifically targeted violence is very different from random terrorist violence.

                            The IRA killed plenty of specific targets - Airey Neave, Louis Mountbatten, Ross McWhirter, numerous politicians nobody over here has heard of.

                            You think blowing up the Conservative party conference hotel is untargeted?

                            Some successfully targeted attacks do not cancel out a bunch of random civilian deaths in other attacks, obviously.

                            Anyway, you can go ahead and believe the public will be sad about this murder next week, and that health insurance will be an afterthought. It'll just take a week to prove you wrong.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              jon-nyc
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                              #108

                              It'll be Bragg prosecuting him. Watch him offer a plea deal with a single digit jail sentence.

                              You were warned.

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                              • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                It'll be Bragg prosecuting him. Watch him offer a plea deal with a single digit jail sentence.

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                                George K
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                                @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                It'll be Bragg prosecuting him.

                                There are rumors of Federal Charges.

                                His term ends on Dec 31, 2025. Magnione won't see a courtroom before then.

                                Do you think he'll be re-elected?

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  jon-nycJ Online
                                  jon-nyc
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                                  I'd bet yes, if for no other reason than incumbency and name recognition.

                                  You were warned.

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                                  • George KG George K

                                    @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                    It'll be Bragg prosecuting him.

                                    There are rumors of Federal Charges.

                                    His term ends on Dec 31, 2025. Magnione won't see a courtroom before then.

                                    Do you think he'll be re-elected?

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                                    jon-nycJ Online
                                    jon-nyc
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                                    #111

                                    @George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                    @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                    It'll be Bragg prosecuting him.

                                    There are rumors of Federal Charges.

                                    I suspect they'd need terrorism charges to do that. Which I think are appropriate.

                                    You were warned.

                                    George KG 1 Reply Last reply
                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      @George-K said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                      @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                      It'll be Bragg prosecuting him.

                                      There are rumors of Federal Charges.

                                      I suspect they'd need terrorism charges to do that. Which I think are appropriate.

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                                      George K
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                                      @jon-nyc said in UnitedHealthcare CEO fatally shot:

                                      I suspect they'd need terrorism charges to do that.

                                      Yeah, that's what I've heard.

                                      Which I think are appropriate.

                                      Howso? It was a targeted murder of a businessman, of course. How's that terrorism?

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                        jon-nyc
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                                        #113

                                        Politically motivated murder to strike fear and change policy? Isn't that the bog standard definition?

                                        You were warned.

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                                          jon-nyc
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                                          #114

                                          I should add I've not looked up the statutory definition. It just seems to fit the common sense definition.

                                          You were warned.

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